On 4/8/25 16:59, Andres Freund wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2025-04-08 09:35:37 -0400, Andres Freund wrote:
>> On April 8, 2025 9:21:57 AM EDT, Tomas Vondra <to...@vondra.me> wrote:
>>> On 4/8/25 15:06, Andres Freund wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-08 17:44:19 +0500, Kirill Reshke wrote:
>>>> I think it's not right that something in src/port defines an SQL callable
>>>> function. The set of headers for that pull in a lot of things.
>>>>
>>>> Since the file relies on things like GUCs, I suspect this should be in
>>>> src/backend/port or such instead.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I think you're right, src/backend/port seems like a better place
>>> for this. I'll look into moving that in the evening.
>>
>> On a second look I wonder if just the SQL function and perhaps the page size
>> function should be moved. There are FE programs that could potentially
>> benefit from num a awareness (e.g. pgbench).
> 
> I would move pg_numa_available() to something like
> src/backend/storage/ipc/shmem.c.
> 

Makes sense, done in the attached patch.

> I wonder if pg_numa_get_pagesize() should loose the _numa_ in the name, it's
> not actually directly NUMA related? If it were pg_get_pagesize() it'd fit in
> with shmem.c or such.
> 

True. It's true it's not really "NUMA page", but page size for the shmem
segment. So renamed to pg_get_shmem_pagesize() and moved to shmem.c,
same as pg_numa_available().

The rest of pg_numa.c is moved to src/backend/port

> Or we could just make it work in FE code by making this part
> 
>       Assert(IsUnderPostmaster);
>       Assert(huge_pages_status != HUGE_PAGES_UNKNOWN);
> 
>       if (huge_pages_status == HUGE_PAGES_ON)
>               GetHugePageSize(&os_page_size, NULL);
> 
> #ifndef FRONTEND - we don't currently support using huge pages in FE programs
> after all. But querying the page size might still be useful.
> 

I don't really like this. Why shouldn't the FE program simply call
sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE)? It'd be just confusing if in backend it'd also
verify huge page status.

> 
> Regardless of all of that, I don't think the include of fmgr.h in pg_numa.h is
> needed?
> 

Right, that was left there after moving the prototype into the .c file.


regards

-- 
Tomas Vondra
diff --git a/contrib/pg_buffercache/pg_buffercache_pages.c b/contrib/pg_buffercache/pg_buffercache_pages.c
index c9ceba604b1..e1701bd56ef 100644
--- a/contrib/pg_buffercache/pg_buffercache_pages.c
+++ b/contrib/pg_buffercache/pg_buffercache_pages.c
@@ -343,7 +343,7 @@ pg_buffercache_numa_pages(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
 		 * This information is needed before calling move_pages() for NUMA
 		 * node id inquiry.
 		 */
-		os_page_size = pg_numa_get_pagesize();
+		os_page_size = pg_get_shmem_pagesize();
 
 		/*
 		 * The pages and block size is expected to be 2^k, so one divides the
diff --git a/src/backend/port/Makefile b/src/backend/port/Makefile
index 47338d99229..5dafbf7c0c0 100644
--- a/src/backend/port/Makefile
+++ b/src/backend/port/Makefile
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ include $(top_builddir)/src/Makefile.global
 OBJS = \
 	$(TAS) \
 	atomics.o \
+	pg_numa.o \
 	pg_sema.o \
 	pg_shmem.o
 
diff --git a/src/backend/port/meson.build b/src/backend/port/meson.build
index 09d54e01d13..a9f7120aef4 100644
--- a/src/backend/port/meson.build
+++ b/src/backend/port/meson.build
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 
 backend_sources += files(
   'atomics.c',
+  'pg_numa.c',
 )
 
 
diff --git a/src/port/pg_numa.c b/src/backend/port/pg_numa.c
similarity index 71%
rename from src/port/pg_numa.c
rename to src/backend/port/pg_numa.c
index 5e2523cf798..20be13f669d 100644
--- a/src/port/pg_numa.c
+++ b/src/backend/port/pg_numa.c
@@ -20,7 +20,6 @@
 #include <windows.h>
 #endif
 
-#include "fmgr.h"
 #include "miscadmin.h"
 #include "port/pg_numa.h"
 #include "storage/pg_shmem.h"
@@ -36,8 +35,6 @@
 #include <numa.h>
 #include <numaif.h>
 
-Datum		pg_numa_available(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
-
 /* libnuma requires initialization as per numa(3) on Linux */
 int
 pg_numa_init(void)
@@ -66,8 +63,6 @@ pg_numa_get_max_node(void)
 
 #else
 
-Datum		pg_numa_available(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
-
 /* Empty wrappers */
 int
 pg_numa_init(void)
@@ -89,32 +84,3 @@ pg_numa_get_max_node(void)
 }
 
 #endif
-
-Datum
-pg_numa_available(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
-{
-	PG_RETURN_BOOL(pg_numa_init() != -1);
-}
-
-/* This should be used only after the server is started */
-Size
-pg_numa_get_pagesize(void)
-{
-	Size		os_page_size;
-#ifdef WIN32
-	SYSTEM_INFO sysinfo;
-
-	GetSystemInfo(&sysinfo);
-	os_page_size = sysinfo.dwPageSize;
-#else
-	os_page_size = sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE);
-#endif
-
-	Assert(IsUnderPostmaster);
-	Assert(huge_pages_status != HUGE_PAGES_UNKNOWN);
-
-	if (huge_pages_status == HUGE_PAGES_ON)
-		GetHugePageSize(&os_page_size, NULL);
-
-	return os_page_size;
-}
diff --git a/src/backend/storage/ipc/shmem.c b/src/backend/storage/ipc/shmem.c
index e10b380e5c7..0903eb50f54 100644
--- a/src/backend/storage/ipc/shmem.c
+++ b/src/backend/storage/ipc/shmem.c
@@ -93,6 +93,8 @@ static HTAB *ShmemIndex = NULL; /* primary index hashtable for shmem */
 /* To get reliable results for NUMA inquiry we need to "touch pages" once */
 static bool firstNumaTouch = true;
 
+Datum		pg_numa_available(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
+
 /*
  *	InitShmemAccess() --- set up basic pointers to shared memory.
  */
@@ -615,7 +617,7 @@ pg_get_shmem_allocations_numa(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
 	 * This information is needed before calling move_pages() for NUMA memory
 	 * node inquiry.
 	 */
-	os_page_size = pg_numa_get_pagesize();
+	os_page_size = pg_get_shmem_pagesize();
 
 	/*
 	 * Allocate memory for page pointers and status based on total shared
@@ -727,3 +729,32 @@ pg_get_shmem_allocations_numa(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
 
 	return (Datum) 0;
 }
+
+/* This should be used only after the server is started */
+Size
+pg_get_shmem_pagesize(void)
+{
+	Size		os_page_size;
+#ifdef WIN32
+	SYSTEM_INFO sysinfo;
+
+	GetSystemInfo(&sysinfo);
+	os_page_size = sysinfo.dwPageSize;
+#else
+	os_page_size = sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE);
+#endif
+
+	Assert(IsUnderPostmaster);
+	Assert(huge_pages_status != HUGE_PAGES_UNKNOWN);
+
+	if (huge_pages_status == HUGE_PAGES_ON)
+		GetHugePageSize(&os_page_size, NULL);
+
+	return os_page_size;
+}
+
+Datum
+pg_numa_available(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
+{
+	PG_RETURN_BOOL(pg_numa_init() != -1);
+}
diff --git a/src/include/port/pg_numa.h b/src/include/port/pg_numa.h
index 7e990d9f776..40f1d324dcf 100644
--- a/src/include/port/pg_numa.h
+++ b/src/include/port/pg_numa.h
@@ -14,12 +14,9 @@
 #ifndef PG_NUMA_H
 #define PG_NUMA_H
 
-#include "fmgr.h"
-
 extern PGDLLIMPORT int pg_numa_init(void);
 extern PGDLLIMPORT int pg_numa_query_pages(int pid, unsigned long count, void **pages, int *status);
 extern PGDLLIMPORT int pg_numa_get_max_node(void);
-extern PGDLLIMPORT Size pg_numa_get_pagesize(void);
 
 #ifdef USE_LIBNUMA
 
diff --git a/src/include/storage/shmem.h b/src/include/storage/shmem.h
index 904a336b851..c1f668ded95 100644
--- a/src/include/storage/shmem.h
+++ b/src/include/storage/shmem.h
@@ -41,6 +41,8 @@ extern void *ShmemInitStruct(const char *name, Size size, bool *foundPtr);
 extern Size add_size(Size s1, Size s2);
 extern Size mul_size(Size s1, Size s2);
 
+extern PGDLLIMPORT Size pg_get_shmem_pagesize(void);
+
 /* ipci.c */
 extern void RequestAddinShmemSpace(Size size);
 
diff --git a/src/port/Makefile b/src/port/Makefile
index 4274949dfa4..f11896440d5 100644
--- a/src/port/Makefile
+++ b/src/port/Makefile
@@ -45,7 +45,6 @@ OBJS = \
 	path.o \
 	pg_bitutils.o \
 	pg_localeconv_r.o \
-	pg_numa.o \
 	pg_popcount_aarch64.o \
 	pg_popcount_avx512.o \
 	pg_strong_random.o \
diff --git a/src/port/meson.build b/src/port/meson.build
index fc7b059fee5..48d2dfb7cf3 100644
--- a/src/port/meson.build
+++ b/src/port/meson.build
@@ -8,7 +8,6 @@ pgport_sources = [
   'path.c',
   'pg_bitutils.c',
   'pg_localeconv_r.c',
-  'pg_numa.c',
   'pg_popcount_aarch64.c',
   'pg_popcount_avx512.c',
   'pg_strong_random.c',

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