Hi Michael Paquier Thank you for the information you provided,
Thanks On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 at 13:13, Michael Paquier <mich...@paquier.xyz> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 09:55:09AM +0800, wenhui qiu wrote: > > However, on the other hand, oracle has many solutions to open the > database > > after the data files are damaged, and his intention should be to start > the > > database even if some critical files are damaged to salvage the data > > inside.Because there's a lot of that going on in the real world, and you > > can't change that by firing the dba. > > So does Postgres, at least partially depending on the state of the > cluster (for example, see ways to bypass catalog indexes to be able to > log in). FWIW, I can be easily convinced that more tooling in this > area to help folks do low-level chirurgy on the on-disk files of a > data folder while a server is running is cool to have, like > pg_surgery: > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/pgsurgery.html > > If you have suggestions about ways that would help, feel free to > propose them. > > Anyway, if it comes to corruption, these tools should only be used if > you don't have a backup, and only to retrieve data from a data folder > to then do a logical copy of it to a freshly initialized data folder, > most likely on a different host or partition, if you suspect that your > disk is at fault for example. > > If you see an issue in the backend code, even a tiny window where we > could lose data because we are missing a flush or manipulate files so > as consistency is not guaranteed post-crash, that would be worth > discussing on the ground of being a legit bug. Manual removal of > on-disk files is not that. > -- > Michael >