Jeff Davis <pg...@j-davis.com> writes: > On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 15:26 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> No, I think we *are* winning, because the updates are not "equally >> unstable": with pg_c_utf8, we control when changes happen. We can >> align them with major releases and release-note the differences. >> With libc-based collations, we have zero control and not much >> notification.
> Also, changes to libc collations are much more impactful, at least two > orders of magnitude. All indexes on text are at risk, even primary > keys. Well, it depends on which libc collation you have in mind. I was thinking of a libc-supplied C.UTF-8 collation, which I would expect to behave the same as pg_c_utf8, modulo which Unicode version it's based on. But even when comparing to that, pg_c_utf8 can win on stability for the reasons I stated. If you don't have a C.UTF-8 collation available, and are forced to use en_US.UTF-8 or $locale-of-choice, then the stability picture is far more dire, as Jeff says. Noah seems to be comparing the stability of pg_c_utf8 to the stability of a pure C/POSIX collation, but I do not think that is the relevant comparison to make. Besides, if someone is using C/POSIX, this feature doesn't stop them from continuing to do so. regards, tom lane