On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:11:17AM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2024-06-15 16:48:24 -0700, Noah Misch wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 01:26:57PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > > > The one > > > thing I know about that *I* think is a pretty big problem about Perl > > > is that IPC::Run is not really maintained. > > > > I don't see in https://github.com/cpan-authors/IPC-Run/issues anything > > affecting PostgreSQL. If you know of IPC::Run defects, please report them. > > If I knew of an IPC::Run defect affecting PostgreSQL, I likely would work on > > it before absurdity like https://github.com/cpan-authors/IPC-Run/issues/175 > > NetBSD-10-specific behavior coping. > > 1) Sometimes hangs hard on windows if started processes have not been shut > down before script exits. I've mostly encountered this via the buildfarm / > CI, so I never had a good way of narrowing this down. It's very painful > because things seem to often just get stuck once that happens.
That's bad. Do you have a link to a log, a thread discussing it, or even just one of the test names experiencing it? > 2) If a subprocess dies in an inopportune moment, IPC::Run dies with "ack > Broken pipe:" (in _do_filters()). There's plenty reports of this on the > list, and I've hit this several times personally. It seems to be timing > dependent, I've encountered it after seemingly irrelevant ordering changes. > > I suspect I could create a reproducer with a bit of time. I've seen that one. If the harness has data to write to a child, the child exiting before the write is one way to reach that. Perhaps before exec(), IPC::Run should do a non-blocking write from each pending IO. That way, small writes never experience the timing-dependent behavior. > 3) It's very slow on windows (in addition to the windows process > slowness). That got to be fixable to some degree. Agreed. For the next release, today's git has some optimizations. There are other known-possible Windows optimizations not implemented.