On 03.05.24 02:11, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 9:38 AM Peter Eisentraut <pe...@eisentraut.org> wrote:
On 30.04.24 14:39, Daniel Verite wrote:
    postgres=# SELECT '.foo.' like '_oo' COLLATE ign_punct;
     ?column?
    ----------
     f
    (1 row)

The first two results look fine, but the next one is inconsistent.

This is correct, because '_' means "any single character".  This is
independent of the collation.

Seems really counterintuitive. I had to think for a long time to be
able to guess what was happening here. Finally I came up with this
guess:

If the collation-aware matching tries to match up f with the initial
period, the period is skipped and the f matches f. But when the
wildcard is matched to the initial period, that uses up the wildcard
and then we're left trying to match o with f, which doesn't work.

Formally, what

    X like '_oo'

means is, can X be partitioned into substrings such that the first substring is a single character and the second substring is equal to 'oo' under the applicable collation? This is false in this case, there is no such partitioning.

What the implementation does is, it walks through the pattern. It sees '_', so it steps over one character in the input string, which is '.' here. Then we have 'foo.' left to match in the input string. Then it takes from the pattern the next substring up to but not including either a wildcard character or the end of the string, which is 'oo', and then it checks if a prefix of the remaining input string can be found that is "equal to" 'oo'. So here it would try in turn

    ''     = 'oo' collate ign_punct ?
    'f'    = 'oo' collate ign_punct ?
    'fo'   = 'oo' collate ign_punct ?
    'foo'  = 'oo' collate ign_punct ?
    'foo.' = 'oo' collate ign_punct ?

and they all fail, so the match fails.

It'd probably be good to use something like this as an example in the
documentation. My intuition is that if foo matches a string, then _oo
f_o and fo_ should also match that string. Apparently that's not the
case, but I doubt I'll be the last one who thinks it should be.

This intuition fails because with nondeterministic collations, strings of different lengths can be equal, and so the question arises, what does the pattern '_' mean. It could mean either, (1) a single character, or perhaps something like, (2) a string that is equal to some other string of length one.

The second definition would satisfy the expectation here, because then '.f' matches '_' because '.f' is equal to some string of length one, such as 'f'. (And then 'oo.' matches 'oo' for the rest of the pattern.) However, off the top of my head, this definition has three flaws: (1) It would make the single-character wildcard effectively an any-number-of-characters wildcard, but only in some circumstances, which could be confusing, (2) it would be difficult to compute, because you'd have to check equality against all possible single-character strings, and (3) it is not what the SQL standard says.

In any case, yes, some explanation and examples should be added.



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