On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 06:41:58PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2023-06-21 21:50:39 -0700, Noah Misch wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 05:46:37PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > > > A related issue is that as far as I can tell the determination of what is > > > bogus is bogus. > > > > > > The relevant cutoffs are determined vac_update_datfrozenxid() using: > > > > > > /* > > > * Identify the latest relfrozenxid and relminmxid values that we could > > > * validly see during the scan. These are conservative values, but it's > > > * not really worth trying to be more exact. > > > */ > > > lastSaneFrozenXid = ReadNextTransactionId(); > > > lastSaneMinMulti = ReadNextMultiXactId(); > > > > > > but doing checks based on thos is bogus, because: > > > > > > a) a concurrent create table / truncate / vacuum can update > > > pg_class.relfrozenxid of some relation in the current database to a > > > newer > > > value, after lastSaneFrozenXid already has been determined. If that > > > happens, we skip updating pg_database.datfrozenxid. > > > > > > b) A concurrent vacuum in another database, ending up in > > > vac_truncate_clog(), > > > can compute a newer datfrozenxid. In that case the vac_truncate_clog() > > > with > > > the outdated lastSaneFrozenXid will not truncate the clog (and also > > > forget > > > to release WrapLimitsVacuumLock currently, as reported upthread) and > > > not > > > call SetTransactionIdLimit(). The latter is particularly bad, because > > > that > > > means we might not come out of "database is not accepting commands" > > > land. > > > > > I guess we could just recompute the boundaries before actually believing > > > the > > > catalog values are bogus? > > > > That's how I'd do it. > > I was looking at doing that and got confused by the current code. Am I missing > something, or does vac_truncate_clog() have two pretty much identical attempts > at a safety measures? > > void > vac_update_datfrozenxid(void) > ... > lastSaneFrozenXid = ReadNextTransactionId(); > ... > vac_truncate_clog(newFrozenXid, newMinMulti, > lastSaneFrozenXid, > lastSaneMinMulti); > } > ... > static void > vac_truncate_clog(TransactionId frozenXID, > MultiXactId minMulti, > TransactionId lastSaneFrozenXid, > MultiXactId lastSaneMinMulti) > { > TransactionId nextXID = ReadNextTransactionId(); > ... > /* > * If things are working properly, no database should have a > * datfrozenxid or datminmxid that is "in the future". > However, such > * cases have been known to arise due to bugs in pg_upgrade. > If we > * see any entries that are "in the future", chicken out and > don't do > * anything. This ensures we won't truncate clog before those > * databases have been scanned and cleaned up. (We will issue > the > * "already wrapped" warning if appropriate, though.) > */ > if (TransactionIdPrecedes(lastSaneFrozenXid, datfrozenxid) || > MultiXactIdPrecedes(lastSaneMinMulti, datminmxid)) > bogus = true; > > if (TransactionIdPrecedes(nextXID, datfrozenxid)) > frozenAlreadyWrapped = true; > > lastSaneFrozenXid is a slightly older version of ReadNextTransactionId(), > that's the only difference afaict.
I don't think you missed anything. nextXID and lastSaneFrozenXid are both just caches of ReadNextTransactionId(). Each can become stale enough to make those comparisons suggest trouble when all is fine. > I guess this might be caused by 78db307bb23 adding the check, but using > GetOldestXmin(NULL, true) to determine lastSaneFrozenXid. That was changed > soon after, in 87f830e0ce03. Yeah. The nextXID check is from 9c54cfb (2002-04), and the newer check converged with it in 87f830e0ce03 (2014-07). While less important, some other things look weak in these functions: - The only non-corruption cause to reach the "don't want to let datfrozenxid go backward" code is for GetOldestNonRemovableTransactionId(NULL) to go backward, e.g. if a walsender starts up and advertises an xmin. One could eliminate that cause by replacing "newFrozenXid = GetOldestNonRemovableTransactionId(NULL)" with initialization from the first relfrozenxid, analogous to how vac_truncate_clog() initializes. vac_update_datfrozenxid() could then warn if the prevention code intervenes. Perhaps, instead of preventing the go-backwards, it should apply the go-backward change after warning? (Unlike datfrozenxid, datminmxid going backward already implies corruption.) - The "some databases have not been vacuumed in over 2 billion transactions" message is false more often than not. More likely, something corrupted a frozen ID. The message is also missing the opportunity to indicate one of the affected databases. - vac_truncate_clog() bogosity checks examine XIDs only, not multis.