Thanks for picking this up!

> How can I see evidence of this?  I'm comparing Debian, FreeBSD and
> macOS 12.4 and when I run "LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 sort
> /usr/share/dict/words" I get upper and lower case mixed together on
> the other OSes, but on the Mac the upper case comes first, which is my
> usual smoke test for "am I looking at binary sort order?"

Perhaps I can shed some light on this matter:

Apple's libc collations have always been a bit special in that concern, even 
for the non-UTF8 ones. Rooted in ancient FreeBSD they "try to keep collating 
table backward compatible with ASCII" thus upper and lower cases characters are 
separated (There are exceptions like 'cs_CZ.ISO8859-2'). The latest public 
sources I can find are in adv_cmds-119 [1] which belongs to OSX 10.5 [2] - 
these correspond to the ones used in FreeBSD till v10 [3], whereby the 
timestamps rather point its origin around FreeBSD 5. Further, there are only 
very few locales actually present on macOS (36 - none of it supporting Unicode) 
and these have not changed for a very long time (I verified that from OS X 
10.6.8 till macOS 12.4 [4], exception is a 'de_DE-A.ISO8859-1' present only in 
macOS 10.15).

What they do instead is symlinking [5] missing collations to similar ones even 
across encodings, often resulting in la_LN.US-ASCII ('la_LN' seem to stand for 
a Latin meta language) being used which is exactly byte order [6]. These 
symlinks have not changed [7] from OS X 10.6.8 till macOS 10.15.7. But in macOS 
11 many of these symlinks changed their target. So did the popular 
'en_US.UTF-8' from 'la_LN.US-ASCII' to 'la_LN.ISO8859-1' or 'de_DE.UTF-8' from 
'la_LN.US-ASCII' to 'de_DE.ISO8859-1'. In effect, about half of the UTF-8 
collations change from no collation to partial/broken collation support. macOS 
12 again shows no changes - tests for macOS 13 are outstanding.

# tl:dr;

With your smoke test "sort /usr/share/dict/words" on a modern macOS you won't 
see a difference between "C" and "en_US.UTF-8" but with "( echo '5£'; echo '£5' 
) | LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 sort" you can produce a difference against "( echo 
'5£'; echo '£5' ) | LC_COLLATE=C sort". Or test with "diff -q <(LC_COLLATE=C 
sort /usr/share/dict/words) <(LC_COLLATE=es_ES.UTF-8 sort 
/usr/share/dict/words)"

The upside is that we don't have to cope with the new characters added in every 
version of Unicode (although I have not examined LC_CTYPE yet).

best regards
Tobias

[1]: 
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/adv_cmds/tree/adv_cmds-119/usr-share-locale.tproj/colldef
[2]: https://opensource.apple.com/releases/
[3]: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/tree/stable/10/share/colldef
[4]: find /usr/share/locale/*/LC_COLLATE -type f -exec md5 {} \;
[5]: 
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/adv_cmds/blob/adv_cmds-119/usr-share-locale.tproj/colldef/BSDmakefile
[6]: 
https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/adv_cmds/blob/adv_cmds-119/usr-share-locale.tproj/colldef/la_LN.US-ASCII.src
[7]: find /usr/share/locale/*/LC_COLLATE -type l -exec stat -f "%N%SY" {} \; 

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