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1. Von: Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us>
>Maybe we should back-patch 0005.  OTOH, how likely is it that anyone
>is wrangling tables exceeding 16TB on a machine with 32-bit off_t?
>Or that poor parallel dump scheduling would be a real problem in
>such a case?

I tested your patch on Windows x64, pg15_devel_25.10.2021 against the customer 
database
( 2 core/4 thread NUC,32 GB RAM, 1 NVME-SSD, 4 jobs)

pg_dump manually patched with your changes
database pg14.0, 20 GB shared buffers.

The dump of the database tables took 3min7sec for a 16 GB database resulting in 
a directory of 31.1 GB with 1628 files!

The dump worked like a rush: full cpu-usage, finish.

I don't have the old performance data available, but it is a real improvement, 
so backpatching may be really woth the effort.

The former slowing-down table has  a ratio from 5169 relpages to 673024 
toastpages.

Despite of the great disk usage (about dubbling the size from the db) directory 
mode seems to be by far the fastest mode especially for databases in the range 
1TB+.

For archiving purposes an extern_to_ postgres tool often fits better for 
compression and can be applied to the dumped data not withholding the dump 
process.

I am still working on another big speedup in this scenario (comming soon).

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2. Another suggestion considering pg_dump

With some customer databases I follow a yearly practice of pg_dump/pg_restore 
to the new major version.
This eliminates all bloat and does a full reindex, so the disk data layout is 
already quite clean.

It would be very favorable to dump the pages according to the CLUSTER index 
when defined for a table. This would only concern the select to retrieve the 
rows and not harm pg_dump's logic.

This would give perfectly reorganized tables in a pg_dump/pg_restore round.

If a cluster index is defined by the customer, this expresses the whish to have 
the table layout in this way and nothing is introduced arbitrarily.

I would suggest to have a flag (--cluster) for pg_dump to activate this new 
behavior.

I think this is not immediately part of the current patchset, but should be 
taken into account for pg_dump ameliorations in PG15.

In the moment I have not yet enough knowledge to propose a patch of this kind ( 
a logic similar to the cluster command itself). Perhaps someone could jump in 
...

Thanks for the patch and awaiting your thoughts

Hans Buschmann

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