On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 02:12:06PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Szymon Lipiński <mabew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, if I have a new program I usually read some documentation. It really > > helps people to exit vim as well :) > > Look, I love vim and use it constantly, but no reasonable person is > going to hold it up as a good example of user-friendly software. > According to Wikipedia, it was written in 1976 by Bill Joy, and > computers have come a long way in the last 40 years. They are, > broadly, easier to use now. For example, current versions of vim let > you move around using new-fangled arrow keys, as if computers were > supposed to cater to the lowest common denominator! Real men (like > me) use hjkl to get around the screen, and look upon those who resort > to the arrow keys as Johnny-come-latelys. Nevertheless, I can hardly > fault vim/vi's concession to modernity in this regard. > > > Thinking this way for me psql's way is the intuitive one, because I know it. > > Should I kindly ask Oracle to change their programs because I rather want to > > use their software than reading their documentation? > > If you can convince Oracle to add support for \q to sqlplus, I say go > for it. Actually, what I'd like even better is if you could convince > them to add curses support, but I guess they would have done that 30 > years ago if they were inclined to do it. > > Really good software -- which sqlplus is not -- doesn't make it > necessary to read the documentation. It helps you figure out how to > use it as you go. When I fire up a new app on my iPhone, it generally > gives me a clue how to use it. Sure, there's probably an app in the > Apple Store someplace that is absolutely unusable without reading the > documentation, but that's a bug, not a feature. It's expected that > you'll have to read the documentation to figure out how to use the > advanced features of any complicated program, but that doesn't mean we > should make simple things complicated just to scare off users that > aren't sufficiently committed to the Cause.
+1 Best, David. -- David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate
