On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Doug McNaught wrote: > Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Doug McNaught <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Alex Satrapa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> 1) Under Linux, if you have the file system containing the WAL mounted > >>> with asynchronous writes, "all bets are off". > >> ... > >> Even with ext2, WAL files are preallocated and PG calls fsync() after > >> writing, so in practice it's not likely to cause problems. > > > > Um. I took the reference to "mounted with async write" to mean a > > soft-mounted NFS filesystem. It does not matter which OS you think is > > the one true OS --- running a database over NFS is the act of someone > > with a death wish. But, yeah, soft-mounted NFS is a particularly > > malevolent variety ... > > I took it as a garbled understanding of the "Linux does async metadata > updates" criticism. Which is true for ext2, but was never the > show-stopper some BSD-ers wanted it to be. :)
And it's not file metadata, it's directory data. Metadata (inode data) is synced, even in ext2, AFAIK. Quoting the man page: fsync copies all in-core parts of a file to disk, and waits until the device reports that all parts are on sta- ble storage. It also updates metadata stat information. It does not necessarily ensure that the entry in the directory containing the file has also reached disk. For that an explicit fsync on the file descriptor of the directory is also needed For WALs, this is perfectly fine. It can be a problem for those applications that do a lot of renames and relay on those as sync/locking mechanisms (think of mail spoolers). .TM. -- ____/ ____/ / / / / Marco Colombo ___/ ___ / / Technical Manager / / / ESI s.r.l. _____/ _____/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org