On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 22:19, Dennis Gearon wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >There's always the general point that C has more pitfalls (mainly > >from pointers/free()/malloc(), and HLLs do more for you, thus you > >have to code less, and, consequently, there are fewer bugs. > > > Someday, they're going to make a langauge called: > > CBC, "C Bounds Checked" > > No buffer overflows, all memory allocs and mallocs create a memory > object that self expands or contracts as necessary, or issues an > exception if it tries to go past a limit you put as an argumen to a malloc. > > With gigabytes of real memory and 100 gigibytes plus of virtual memory, > the programmer should not handle memory management any more. The > consumers and software users expect programmers to give up their pride > and let go of total control of the memory model, (like they have it now > ). The only excetion might be hardware drivers.
Some would say that that's what Java and C++ are for. I'd do more Java programming if it didn't have an API the size of Montana, no make that Alaska and a good chunk of Siberia. But still, multiple pointers being able to point to the same chunk of the heap will doom any solution to inefficiency. IMNSHO, only the kernel and *high-performance* products should be written in C. Everything else should be written in HLLs. Anything from COBOL (still a useful language), FORTRAN, modern BASICs, to pointer-less Pascal, Java, Smalltalk, Lisp, and scripting languages. Note that I did *not* mention C++. > Nobody say C#, OK? An Msoft imposed solution that integrates all their > products, mistakes, football stadium sized APIs, and private backdoors > is not the answer. natch! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "they love our milk and honey, but preach about another way of living" Merle Haggard, "The Fighting Side Of Me" ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
