On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 06:37, Christopher Browne wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Johnson) wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 16:29, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 10:52:45AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> > >> > So instead of 1TB of 15K fiber channel disks (and the requisite > >> > controllers, shelves, RAID overhead, etc), we'd need *two* TB of > >> > 15K fiber channel disks (and the requisite controllers, shelves, > >> > RAID overhead, etc) just for the 1 time per year when we'd upgrade > >> > PostgreSQL? > >> > >> Nope. You also need it for the time when your vendor sells > >> controllers or chips or whatever with known flaws, and you end up > >> having hardware that falls over 8 or 9 times in a row. > > > > ???? > > This of course never happens in real life; expensive hardware is > _always_ UTTERLY reliable. > > And the hardware vendors all have the same high standards as, well, > certain database vendors we might think of. > > After all, Oracle and MySQL AB would surely never mislead their > customers about the merits of their database products any more than > HP, Sun, or IBM would about the possibility of their hardware having > tiny flaws.
Well, I use Rdb, so I wouldn't know about that! (But then, it's an Oracle product, and runs on HPaq h/w...) > And I would /never/ claim to have lost sleep as a result of flakey > hardware. Particularly not when it's a HA fibrechannel array. I'm > /sure/ that has never happened to anyone. [The irony herre should be > causing people to say "ow!"] Sure, I've seen expensive h/e flake out. It was the "8 or 9 times in a row" that confused me. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA The difference between drunken sailors and Congressmen is that drunken sailors spend their own money. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings