Sorry the URL should have been https://www.maytech.net/

 

Of course there are other companies in this space. 

 

From: Moreno Andreo [mailto:moreno.and...@evolu-s.it] 
Sent: 29 July 2016 12:08
To: FarjadFarid(ChkNet) <farjad.fa...@checknetworks.com>; 
pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [GENERAL] WAL directory size calculation

 

Il 29/07/2016 11:44, FarjadFarid(ChkNet) ha scritto:

 

The question to ask is what benefit would you gain by saving BLOB object on a 
database than on say a flat file server or url on an ftp server? Specially 
larger ones. 

Privacy. Blobs are stored encrypted, since they are health-related images or 
documents.
You should be right if all of this data would be resident only on our server 
(that can only be accessed by application), but every user has a small PG 
cluster in his PC with his patients data and images that replicates 
continuously with our server.
Our application runs on Windows. To get into patient data from another user 
(say, someone that stole the computer) is a bit tricky, because you have to 
know how to exclude authentication in postgres and even after this, you have to 
know where to search and what to search and sometines what is the meaning on 
the encodings.
Imagine if we have a folder containing all images.... double click and open...

Another point is a bit of self-defense. Our users are far to be smart computer 
users, and in the past we had some cases in which someone, trying to clean up a 
filled-up disk, deleted a directory under his Paradox database (!!!) and then 
asked us why the app was not loading anymore....
  

BLOB’s cause a lot problem for all DBs. Not unless the DB engine can understand 
their structure and process them. It is not worth the effort. 

It can hit the DB performance in Indexing, backups, migrations and load 
balancing. 

Regarding backups I disagree. Files related to database must be consistent to 
the database itself, so backup must be done saving both database and images. 
AFAIK there's not a big difference in backing up image files versus BLOBS in a 
database.
I agree about load balancing, but only in case of a bulk load of several 
megabytes. (our actual server got an overload 2 months ago when a client we 
were activating sent a transaction with the insertion of 50 blobs sizing about 
300 megabytes)



 

 

Hope this helps. 

 

 

 

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[mailto:pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Moreno Andreo
Sent: 29 July 2016 10:19
To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org <mailto:pgsql-general@postgresql.org> 
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [GENERAL] WAL directory size calculation

 

Il 29/07/2016 10:43, John R Pierce ha scritto:

 

Aside of this, I'm having 350 DBs that sum up a bit more than 1 TB, and plan 
to use wal_level=archive because I plan to have a backup server with barman. 

 

With that many databases with that so many objects

350 DBs with about 130 tables and a bunch of sequences each, for the sake of 
precision.
With extensive use of BLOBs.





and undoubtable client connections, 

Yes, that's another big problem... we run normally between 500 and 700 
concurrent connections... I had to set max_connections=1000, the whole thing 
grew up faster than we were prepared for...





I'd want to spread that across a cluster of smaller servers.

That will be step 2... while migration is running (and will run for some 
months, we have to plan migration with users) I'll test putting another one or 
two machines in cluster, make some test cases, and when ready, databases will 
be migrated on other machines, too.
I posted a question about this some months ago, and I was told that one 
solution would be to set the servers to be master on some databases and slave 
on others, so we can have a better load balancing (instead of having all writes 
on the sole master, we split among all masters depending on which database is 
getting the write command, especially when having to write BLOBs that can be 
some megabytes in size).
I don't know to achieve this, but I will find a way somewhere.





just sayin...

ideas are always precious and welcome.




 

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john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz

 

 

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