On 05/01/2016 18:47, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Hello,

I had a hard time writing this email. I think Code of Conducts are non-essential, a waste of respectful people's time and frankly if you are going to be a jerk, our community will call you out on it. Unfortunately a lot of people don't agree with that. I have over the course of the last year seen more and more potential users very explicitly say, "I will not contribute to a project or attend a conference that does not have a CoC".

Some of us may be saying, "Well we don't want those people". I can't argue with some facts though. Ubuntu has had a CoC[1] since the beginning of the project and they grew exceedingly quick. Having walls in the hallway of interaction isn't always a bad thing.

In reflection, the only thing a CoC does is put in writing what behaviour we as 
a project already require, so why not document it and use it as a tool to 
encourage more contribution to our project?

Sincerely,

JD


1. http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct

Well, while I don't have an opinion, since after 16+ years I don't think I am 
going anywhere away from PostgreSQL, let me share my initial feelings about the 
community.
It was back in 2003, having spent already 3 years with the database and just starting to implement our own hierarchical solution based on postgresql arrays and intarray contrib module, and heavily hack DBMirror, when someone (high ranking) on -sql called me "newbie". My immediate reaction was to start looking for alternatives. Obviously I failed (no OS DB was this good). Other times I had my favorite OS (FreeBSD) being bashed by pgsql ppl, but held on, I am still here, and ppl at pgsql conferences now talk about a company who has deployed over 100 pgsql installations in the seven seas communicating over satellite by a hacked version of uucp and replicated via a heavily hacked version of DBmirror.

So while I think that a CoC might help beginners stay, I don't think that this 
is a major part, neither do I think that the ppl themselves will easily conform.

--
Achilleas Mantzios
IT DEV Lead
IT DEPT
Dynacom Tankers Mgmt



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