On Tue, 2016-01-05 at 22:41 -0600, Jim Nasby wrote: > On 1/5/16 10:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 1/5/2016 5:31 PM, Jim Nasby wrote: > >> IMHO, the real problem here is not simply a CoC, it is that the > >> Postgres community doesn't focus on developing the community itself. > >> The closest we come to "focus" is occasional talk on -hackers about > >> how we need more developers. There is no formal > >> discussion/leadership/coordination towards actively building and > >> strengthening our community. Until that changes, I fear we will always > >> have a lack of developers. More importantly, we will continue to lack > >> all the other ways that people could contribute beyond writing code. > >> IE: the talk shouldn't be about needing more developers, it should be > >> about needing people who want to contribute time to growing the > >> community. > > > > > > That sounds like a bunch of modern marketing graduate mumbojumbo to > > me. The postgres community are the people who actually support it on > > the email lists and IRC, as well as the core development teams, and > > INMO, they are quite strong and effective. when you start talking > > about social marketing and facebook and twitter and stuff, thats just a > > bunch of feelgood smoke and mirrors. The project's output is what > > supports it, not having people going out 'growing community', that is > > just a bunch of hot air. you actively 'grow community' when you're > > pushing worthless products (soda pop, etc) based on slick marketing > > plans rather than actually selling something useful. > > Then why is it that there is almost no contribution to the community > other than code and mailing list discussion? > > Why is the infrastructure team composed entirely of highly experienced > code contributors, of which there are ~200 on the planet, when there are > literally 100s of thousands (if not millions) of people out there that > could do that work (and could probably do it better if it's what they do > for a living, no offense to the efforts of the infrastructure team). > > Why is there a lack of developers? And a serious lack of code reviewers? > -- > Jim Nasby, Data Architect, Blue Treble Consulting, Austin TX > Experts in Analytics, Data Architecture and PostgreSQL > Data in Trouble? Get it in Treble! http://BlueTreble.com >
As long as I've participated in the list, I've had access to the very best conversations and technical discussions from my fellow decorated contributors. The coc sounds like a Washington politics play, but as long as the best still engage in this forum, I could care less. The list serves its purpose without overhead...a rare resource in today's flood of incoherent technical chatter. Happy New Year! Bret Stern President Machine Management
