One more thing I just tried:

create table table_schema.table_name_new (like table_schema.table_name);
insert into table_schema.table_name_new select * from table_schema.table_
name;

The new tables shows the same amount of wasted bytes and pages as the old.

So I think based on that I'm going to throw out any notion of updates or
deletes as cause for bloat on this particular table.

-G


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Gregory Haase <haa...@onefreevoice.com>wrote:

> So, between yesterday and today we actually failed over to our hot-standby
> instance and the issue hasn't changed. I don't think you can have a pending
> transaction across streaming replication.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:49 PM, John R Pierce <pie...@hogranch.com>wrote:
>
>>  On 10/29/2013 12:41 PM, Gregory Haase wrote:
>>
>> db_name=# VACUUM FULL VERBOSE table_schema.table_name;
>> INFO:  vacuuming "table_schema.table_name"
>> INFO:  "table_name": found 2 removable, 29663 nonremovable row versions
>> in 1754 pages
>> DETAIL:  0 dead row versions cannot be removed yet.
>> CPU 0.07s/0.10u sec elapsed 0.30 sec.
>>
>>
>> is there an old transaction pending?   that 'masks' vacuum from touching
>> any tuples newer than the start of that transaction.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> john r pierce                                      37N 122W
>> somewhere on the middle of the left coast
>>
>>
>

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