On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Satori <d...@druware.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:17 PM, "Daniel Verite" <dan...@manitou-mail.org> wrote:
>
>>       Vincent Veyron wrote:
>>
>>> I find it strange that
>>>
>>> 'Probability that a new thread gets a response'
>>>
>>> sits below 60% for the 'general' list
>>
>> This seems indeed too low.
>>
>> I happen to collect these messages in a database since mid-2005. As a point
>> of comparison, the numbers I get until today for pgsql-general are 3348
>> messages that appear to be outside of any thread (no "In-Reply-To" field or
>> "References" field that points to it, and subject does not start with "Re:"),
>> the total number of messages being 110233, in 19855 distinct threads.
>>
>> So at least in this time period, I can't see how it could be said that
>> there's a 40% probability of not getting a reply. If we consider that there
>> are 3348 failed attempts at spawning a thread vs 19855 successful attempts,
>> the ratio would be about 6:1, or a 17% probability of getting no public
>> response.
>>
>
>
> Welcome to the perception of the outsider.  I am in infrequent poster here, 
> but in my 6 years of doing PostgreSQL for Mac, I get 3-4 emails a week asking 
> for help on PostgreSQL issues that contain some variation of the phrase 'I 
> posted to a PostgreSQL <forum/mailinglist/channel> and got no response'.  
> Considering that I monitor many of those same venues, I can honestly say that 
> I have almost never seen the original posts, even upon further looking.
>
> I suspect there are many reasons.  Anecdotal evidence hints to me that in 
> many cases, that phrase so oft repeated is just a cover.  They didn't post, 
> for fear of ridicule, and are going private to avoid public embarrassment.  
> Articles like this do much the same, and serve only to create more fear that 
> the mailing lists are useless.
>
> Given that, while it is good to be aware of things like this article, I would 
> not put too much faith in either the numbers or the conclusions.  In my time 
> around the community, there is no more welcoming community surrounding an 
> active, healthy Open Source Software project out there.

Agreed. Note that if someone posts asking a question but fails to give
any useful context I can use to help I'll often ignore the post.  OTOH
posts where the user has obvious tried a variety of things and
presents a good explanation of the problem I'll often reply if it's an
area I know about.


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