On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 10:24:28PM -0500, some SMTP stream spewed forth: 
> Tatsuo Ishii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Probably we really need here is a kind of ping tool for PostgreSQL,

*snip*

> (BTW, a short-term answer for grasshacker is not to use -w in his
> pg_ctl start script ...)

Heh, I just went and commented out the whole if block. ;-)

> 
>                       regards, tom lane

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