Two messages floated by here last week describing similar optimizer problems, and I didn't see any responses to them. One of them was mine and it's causing some bad delays in my first attempt at running Postgres in production at work. The following query sits in the optimizer (even just doing an explain) for an unreasonably long amount of time, regardless of the amount of data in any of the tables: select events.event_id, events.hostdate, events.ts, events.priority, tags.tag_name, events.stack, messages.message, usernames.user_name as user_name, wwwusers.user_name as wwwuser, files.file_name as filename, scripts.file_name as scriptname, events.linenum from events, tags, messages, usernames, usernames as wwwusers, files, files as scripts where events.tag_id=tags.tag_id and events.message_id=messages.message_id and usernames.user_id = events.user_id and wwwusers.user_id = events.wwwuser_id and files.file_id = events.file_id and scripts.file_id = events.script_id I sent a script to create the database (and this view) in my last message. Does anyone have any idea what's causing this problem, or how to fix it? I've done larger joins before... Anyway, I'm going to have to denormalize my database some to work around this. -- SA, beyond.com My girlfriend asked me which one I like better. pub 1024/3CAE01D5 1994/11/03 Dustin Sallings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Key fingerprint = 87 02 57 08 02 D0 DA D6 C8 0F 3E 65 51 98 D8 BE L_______________________ I hope the answer won't upset her. ____________