Hi, well, finally have it all running together, but can't get my old 6.1 data into 6.4.1 now. I did a pg_dumpall -z > db.out in 6.1 and its created the file with all the data in it, but the appropriate psql -e template1 < db.out falls over. Massive error messages, although it actually creates the databases, it doesn't put anything in them... any ideas? Cheers Bob -- http://www.chalmers.com.au Chinese Language Studies. http://4qir.quantum-radio.net.au World Music Radio. phone:61-7-49440357 - fax:61-7-49512832 icq#11252938. Courses and Resources and Radio 4QIR. Working for Whirled Peas.