On 16/5/25 18:45, Moreno Andreo wrote:

Hi,
    we are moving our old binary data approach, moving them from bytea fields in a table to external storage (making database smaller and related operations faster and smarter). In short, we have a job that runs in background and copies data from the table to an external file and then sets the bytea field to NULL.
(UPDATE tbl SET blob = NULL, ref = 'path/to/file' WHERE id = <uuid>)

This results, at the end of the operations, to a table that's less than one tenth in size. We have a multi-tenant architecture (100s of schemas with identical architecture, all inheriting from public) and we are performing the task on one table per schema.

So? toasted data are kept on separate TOAST tables, unless those bytea cols are selected, you won't even touch them. I cannot understand what you are trying to achieve here.

Years ago, when I made the mistake to go for a coffee and let my developers "improvise" , the result was a design similar to what you are trying to achieve. Years after, I am seriously considering moving those data back to PostgreSQL.


The problem is: this is generating BIG table bloat, as you may imagine.
Running a VACUUM FULL on an ex-22GB table on a standalone test server is almost immediate. If I had only one server, I'll process a table a time, with a nightly script, and issue a VACUUM FULL to tables that have already been processed.

But I'm in a logical replication architecture (we are using a multimaster system called pgEdge, but I don't think it will make big difference, since it's based on logical replication), and I'm building a test cluster.

So you use PgEdge , but you wanna lose all the benefits of multi-master , since your binary data won't be replicated ...
I've been instructed to issue VACUUM FULL on both nodes, nightly, but before proceeding I read on docs that VACUUM FULL can disrupt logical replication, so I'm a bit concerned on how to proceed. Rows are cleared one a time (one transaction, one row, to keep errors to the record that issued them)

PgEdge is based on the old pg_logical, the old 2ndQuadrant extension, not the native logical replication we have since pgsql 10. But I might be mistaken.
I read about extensions like pg_squeeze, but I wonder if they are still not dangerous for replication.

What's pgEdge take on that, I mean the bytea thing you are trying to achieve here.
Thanks for your help.
Moreno.-





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