Please ignore this email. I could not reproduce it after all.
-- Dr. Manuel Holtgrewe, Dipl.-Inform. Bioinformatician Core Unit Bioinformatics – CUBI Berlin Institute of Health / Max Delbrück Center for Molecular Medicine in the Helmholtz Association / Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin Visiting Address: Invalidenstr. 80, 3rd Floor, Room 03 028, 10117 Berlin Postal Address: Chariteplatz 1, 10117 Berlin E-Mail: manuel.holtgr...@bihealth.de Phone: +49 30 450 543 607 Fax: +49 30 450 7 543 901 Web: cubi.bihealth.org www.bihealth.org www.mdc-berlin.de www.charite.de ________________________________ From: Holtgrewe, Manuel <manuel.holtgr...@bih-charite.de> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:54:49 AM To: Tom Lane Cc: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: [ext] Re: Losing data because of problematic configuration? Hi again, thank you for pinpointing the issue. I have now updated the table with "ALTER TABLE $table SET LOGGED" (actually it's a partitioned table and I've altered both the main table and the partitions). I wanted to double-check the result and what I found out using "select relpersistence, relname from pg_class" that, e.g., ${table_name}_383_pkey still has its relpersistence set to "u" whereas ${table_name}_383 has its relpersistence set to "p" now. Does anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong here? Thank you! Manuel ________________________________ From: Holtgrewe, Manuel <manuel.holtgr...@bih-charite.de> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 5:53:54 PM To: Tom Lane Cc: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: [ext] Re: Losing data because of problematic configuration? >> < 2021-06-15 12:33:04.537 CEST > DEBUG: resetting unlogged relations: >> cleanup 1 init 0 > > Are you perhaps keeping your data in an UNLOGGED table? If so, resetting > it to empty after a crash is exactly what's supposed to happen. The > entire point of UNLOGGED is that the performance benefits come at the > cost of losing the data on crash. D'oh! Yes, that is the case. I once used this but I was convinced that I took this back in some version. It is not in my main deployment, though. Now I have to find out (a) why I have diverging deployment and (b) how that bug came about to be. Thanks a lot! ________________________________ From: Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:39:31 PM To: Holtgrewe, Manuel Cc: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Subject: [ext] Re: Losing data because of problematic configuration? "Holtgrewe, Manuel" <manuel.holtgr...@bih-charite.de> writes: > So it looks as if the database jumps back "half an hour" to ensure consistent > data. Everything in between is lost. Postgres does not lose committed data --- if it did, we'd consider that a fairly serious bug. (Well, there are caveats of course. But most of them have to do with operating-system crashes or power loss, neither of which are at stake here.) I am wondering about this though: > < 2021-06-15 12:33:04.537 CEST > DEBUG: resetting unlogged relations: > cleanup 1 init 0 Are you perhaps keeping your data in an UNLOGGED table? If so, resetting it to empty after a crash is exactly what's supposed to happen. The entire point of UNLOGGED is that the performance benefits come at the cost of losing the data on crash. regards, tom lane