On 2020/10/08 7:12, Jeff Janes wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:47 PM David G. Johnston <david.g.johns...@gmail.com 
<mailto:david.g.johns...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:35 PM Jeff Janes <jeff.ja...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jeff.ja...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Quoting the docs:

        https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/continuous-archiving.html

        "As with base backups, the easiest way to produce a standalone hot backup is 
to use the pg_basebackup tool. If you include the -X parameter when calling it, all the 
write-ahead log required to use the backup will be included in the backup automatically, 
and no special action is required to restore the backup."

        This makes it sound like -X is a switch option, when in fact it demands an 
argument.  The statement made is incorrect if the supplied argument is "none", 
but  is correct for the other two options.  Should this be changed to spell out which 
options it applies to (or maybe which option it does not apply to).


    Just reading the doc page for pg_basebackup: "stream" is the default method value for this 
option.  So if you just include "-X" you get "stream" which is indeed a mode that just 
works and the continuous archiving section you quote is correct.

    I'm not really sure I like the idea that we don't indicate which 
pg_basebackup key-value argument values are optional and which are mandatory.

    David J.

Stream is the default if you don't specify -X at all.

We should use the description like "Unless -X none is specified when calling 
it" ?


  If you specify -X but with no argument for it, you get an error.

pg_basebackup: option requires an argument -- 'X'
Try "pg_basebackup --help" for more information.

(Which is also a bit confusing, I would expect a default to apply when the 
option is specified without an argument, as opposed to when the option itself 
it is not specified )

As far as I recall, we discussed that in [1] and gave up doing that.

Regards,

[1]
https://postgr.es/m/1338235863.24935.27.ca...@vanquo.pezone.net

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