On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 23:35 +0300, Liudmila Mantrova wrote: > > I am a bit uncomfortable about having details about the workings of > > binary packages for specific operating systems in the core documentation. > > Maybe I'm too sensitive there, but what about having these parts in the Wiki > > and linking there from the tutorial? > > I also had my doubts about it, but since we are only talking about PGDG > packages that > the community supports, it's probably OK to have it in docs? Besides, I > believe we > should be consistent here - if we are hand-holding the user through the > source install, > we should have a description for binary install as well (which is even more > useful for novices). > I also think it makes the tutorial self-contained, which seems to address one > of the > concerns raised in the presentation you are referring to.
Perhaps you are right, but I wonder if following a link into the Wiki would be a great hurdle for the novice. I personally thought that a lot of the complaints in the presentation were ridiculous, so we need not follow its recommendations slavishly. > > Quickly skimming over the text, I have two things to comment: > > - The RedHat binaries use "trust" authentication by default, not "peer". > > Do you mean PGDG binaries or any other binaries? For a PGDG install on e.g. > RHEL 8, > peer seems to be the default. > But now that you mentioned it, I realized that trust is the default for > source installs and it might be worth adding, too. I'll try to tweak this > part again. The binaries for Fedora Linux use "trust". I think that the source installation is covered well enough. > > - I couldn't see anything about Windows. > > I think that particularly on Windows people would need a tutorial most, > > not because Windows people are more clueless, but because things work > > differently there. Many Windows users don't know how to start a shell. > > I think we can extend it with Windows specifics if there are no other major > concerns. > (But it'll probably take some time for me to try it and figure out the > differences. > Although I know how to start a shell, I'm sure I'll face other problems. :)) I understand your reluctance. But if we want to cater for clueless beginners, we cannot omit Windows. Yours, Laurenz Albe -- Cybertec | https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com
