Hi,

Thank you for the quick reply! I was completely unaware of the old time zones of Helsinki! However I'm afraid that the behaviour of Postgresql seems plain wrong to me. An example:

SET TIME ZONE 'Europe/Helsinki';
DROP TABLE IF EXISTS test1;
CREATE TABLE test1 (ts TIMESTAMPTZ);
INSERT INTO test1 VALUES ('0001-01-01 00:00:00');
SELECT * FROM test1;
--               ts
-- ------------------------------
--  0001-01-01 00:00:00+01:39:52

Here I enter a timestamp in Helsinki time zone, and the query result is different, even though the time zone is the same.

I will resolve this matter by using TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE instead, and storing the offset manually. That way I get two advantages: 1) queried time stamp will be equal to the inserted one 2) time offset information is stored, allowing the time to be displayed in the same time zone as it was entered and at the point in time that it was entered.

Best regards,
Kasper Rönning


On 7.6.2012 17:37, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kasper_R=F6nning?=<kasper.ronn...@reliabit.fi>  writes:
I seem to have found a bug in Postgres 9.1.3. Apparently timestamp
values are stored correctly in the database, but querying it returns
invalid results. My environment is Windows 7 64bit. The unexpected
result is that timestamps before 1st of May 1921 are displayed
incorrectly when time zone is 'Europe/Helsinki'.
This is not incorrect.  The Olson timezone database shows:

# Zone  NAME            GMTOFF  RULES   FORMAT  [UNTIL]
Zone    Europe/Helsinki 1:39:52 -       LMT     1878 May 31
                        1:39:52 -       HMT     1921 May    # Helsinki Mean Time
                        2:00    Finland EE%sT   1983
                        2:00    EU      EE%sT

that is, it was only in 1921 that Helsinki adopted "standard" time
referenced to the Greenwich meridian.  Before that it would have been
typical to set clocks by local mean solar time, which is 1:39:52 east
of Greenwich.

                        regards, tom lane


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Reliabit Ay

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