Okay, I see the maturity level is too low here.  I'll take this elsewhere. 
If anyone has a similar problem and would like to know the status please
email me.



David Fetter wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:51:49AM -0700, austijc wrote:
>> 
>> That's going to be a problem for the continued viability of
>> Postgres.
> 
> Funny, I thought running a DBMS over a known-unreliable storage system
> was a problem for the continued viability of Oracle.  When, not if,
> people lose enough data to this silliness, they'll be thinking hard
> about how to get Oracle out and something reliable in.
> 
>> Clustered systems using a NAS for data is a pretty common
>> configuration these days.  Oracle specifically supports it and even
>> complains if your NFS mount options are not correct.   Our Oracle
>> DBs run great in this same configuration and are a good 10-20 times
>> faster than the local disk performance along with the quick
>> take-over capability if a system goes belly up.
> 
> Oracle stores more state to the disk than PostgreSQL does, which has
> significant down sides.  There are more effective ways of handling
> uptime requirements than jamming NFS into the picture.  Maybe it's
> just my failure of imagination, but I can't think of a *less*
> effective one.
> 
>> I'll try to isolate this problem with a simple C program to tell me
>> what software layer to look at.  Hopefully it's just a configuration
>> issue.
> 
> It's not.  The issue is that NFS is broken garbage from a DBMS, and,
> it's pretty easy to argue, just about any other perspective.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
>> 
>> Tom Lane-2 wrote:
>> > 
>> > austijc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> The question is can anyone more familiar with this tell me what's
>> going
>> >> on
>> >> here?  I don't know if this is a Postgres, Sun, or NetApp issue. 
>> Could
>> >> it
>> >> be a work around for an old Linux bug causing an issue with acceptable
>> >> behavior of the NetApp device? 
>> > 
>> > People who try to run databases over NFS usually regret it eventually
>> ;-)
>> > 
>> > All I can say is that this error message has never before been reported
>> > by anyone who wasn't exposed to that lseek-inconsistency kernel bug.
>> > I am not finding it too hard to believe that NFS might be vulnerable to
>> > similar misbehavior.
>> > 
>> >                    regards, tom lane
>> > 
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