I need in some select-statements case-insensetiv ordering of results, i want to use upper()-function in order by part of statement but it doesn't work with field-aliases. Can I do this in another way? I'm using PostgreSql 7.1.2 on SuSe-Linux Example: this works: select p1.prs_vorname as vorname, p1.prs_nachname as nachname, p1.lfdnr as lfdnr, pos.pos_name as position, p1.prs_email as email, abt.abt_name as abteilung from person p1 left join abteilung abt on abt.lfdnr = p1.prs_abt_lfdnr, person p2 left join positionen pos on pos.lfdnr=p2.prs_pos_lfdnr where p1.lfdnr=p2.lfdnr ORDER BY nachname; this don't work: select p1.prs_vorname as vorname, p1.prs_nachname as nachname, p1.lfdnr as lfdnr, pos.pos_name as position, p1.prs_email as email, abt.abt_name as abteilung from person p1 left join abteilung abt on abt.lfdnr = p1.prs_abt_lfdnr, person p2 left join positionen pos on pos.lfdnr=p2.prs_pos_lfdnr where p1.lfdnr=p2.lfdnr ORDER BY upper(nachname); ERROR: Attribute 'nachname' not found ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html