Jose,
I'll check and fix them. I have to do it in master, is ok?
Hong

________________________________
From: Pierre Jolivet <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:08 PM
To: Zhang, Hong <[email protected]>
Cc: Jose E. Roman <[email protected]>; Stefano Zampini 
<[email protected]>; petsc-dev <[email protected]>; Smith, Barry F. 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] MATOP_MAT_MULT

Hong,
I also now just tested some previously PETSC_VERSION_LT(3,13,0) running code 
with C=A*B, Dense=Nest*Dense, all previously allocated prior to a call to 
MatMatMult and scall = MAT_REUSE_MATRIX.
Sadly, it’s now broken. It is my fault for not having a test for this in 
https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/merge_requests/2069, sorry about that.
[0]PETSC ERROR: Call MatProductSymbolic() first
[0]PETSC ERROR: #1 MatProductNumeric() line 730 in 
/ccc/work/cont003/rndm/rndm/petsc/src/mat/interface/matproduct.c
[0]PETSC ERROR: #2 MatMatMult() line 9335 in 
/ccc/work/cont003/rndm/rndm/petsc/src/mat/interface/matrix.c

Here is a reproducer (that will work OK with 3.12.4).
diff --git a/src/mat/tests/ex195.c b/src/mat/tests/ex195.c
index c72662bc3c..811de669c5 100644
--- a/src/mat/tests/ex195.c
+++ b/src/mat/tests/ex195.c
@@ -73,2 +73,3 @@ int main(int argc,char **args)
   ierr = MatMatMult(nest,B,MAT_REUSE_MATRIX,PETSC_DEFAULT,&C);CHKERRQ(ierr);
+  ierr = MatMatMult(nest,C,MAT_REUSE_MATRIX,PETSC_DEFAULT,&B);CHKERRQ(ierr);
   ierr = MatMatMultEqual(nest,B,C,10,&equal);CHKERRQ(ierr);

$ make -f gmakefile test searchin=mat_tests-ex195

I believe this is very close to the topic at hand and issue #608, so maybe you 
could fix this as well in the same upcoming MR? Just let me know, I can have a 
crack it otherwise.
Thanks,
Pierre

On 22 Apr 2020, at 5:38 PM, Zhang, Hong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Jose, Pierre and Stefano,
Now I understand the issue that Stefano raised. I plan to add
MatProductIsSupported(Wmat,&supported,&matproductsetfromoptions)
the flag 'supported' tells if the product is supported/implemented or not,
and the function pointer 'matproductsetfromoptions' gives the name of 
MatProductSetFromOptions_xxx, (including basic implementation) or NULL.

Let me know your suggestions. I'll list all of you as reviewer.
Hong

________________________________
From: Jose E. Roman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:07 AM
To: Stefano Zampini 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Zhang, Hong <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Pierre Jolivet 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; petsc-dev 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] MATOP_MAT_MULT

I agree with Pierre and Stefano.
Hong: your proposed solution would be fine, but MATOP_MATPRODUCT does not exist 
yet, so I cannot try it.
I would like a solution along the lines of what Stefano suggests. It is not too 
much trouble if it goes to master instead of maint.

Thanks.
Jose


> El 22 abr 2020, a las 15:26, Stefano Zampini 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:
>
>
>>
>> MatProductCreateWithMat(A,Vmat,NULL,Wmat);
>> MatProductSetType(Wmat,MATPRODUCT_AB);
>> MatHasOperation(Wmat,MATOP_MATPRODUCT,&flg); //new support, it calls 
>> MatProductSetFromOptions(Wmat)
>
> Hong, this would go in the direction I was outlining here 
> https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/issues/608
> How about also adding something like
>
> MatProductIsImplemented(Wmat,&flg)
>
> That returns true if a specific implementation is available? This way
>
> This way, if we use both queries, we can assess the presence of the basic 
> fallbacks too, i.e.
>
> MatHasOperation(Wmat,MATOP_MATPRODUCT,&flg1)
> MatProductIsImplemented(Wmat,&flg2)
>
> If flg1 is false, no support at all
> If flg1 is true and flg2 is false -> Basic implementation (i.e, MatShell with 
> products inside)
> If flg1 and flg2 are both true -> Specific implementation available.
>
>> if (V->vmm && flg) {
>>   MatProductSymbolic(Wmat);
>>   MatProductNumeric(Wmat);
>> } else {
>>   MatDestroy(Wmat);
>>   ...
>> }
>> Hong
>>
>>
>> From: Jose E. Roman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:21 AM
>> To: Pierre Jolivet 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc: Zhang, Hong <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; petsc-dev 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: Re: [petsc-dev] MATOP_MAT_MULT
>>
>>
>>
>> > El 21 abr 2020, a las 17:53, Pierre Jolivet 
>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 21 Apr 2020, at 5:22 PM, Zhang, Hong 
>> >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Pierre,
>> >> MatMatMult_xxx() is removed from MatOps table.
>> >
>> > Shouldn’t there be a deprecation notice somewhere?
>> > There is nothing about MATOP_MAT_MULT in the 3.13 changelog 
>> > https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/changes/313.html
>> > For example, I see that in SLEPc, José is currently making these checks, 
>> > which are in practice useless as they always return 
>> > PETSC_FALSE?https://gitlab.com/slepc/slepc/-/blob/master/src/sys/classes/bv/impls/contiguous/contig.c#L191
>> > (Maybe José is aware of this and this is just for testing)
>>
>> No, I was not aware of this. Thanks for bringing this up. Now in 3.13 we are 
>> always doing the slow version (column by column), so yes I am interested in 
>> a solution for this.
>>
>> >
>> >> MatMatMult() is replaced by
>> >> MatProductCreate()
>> >> MatProductSetType(,MATPRODUCT_AB)
>> >> MatProductSetFromOptions()
>> >> MatProductSymbolic()
>> >> MatProductNumeric()
>> >>
>> >> Where/when do you need query a single matrix for its product operation?
>> >
>> > I didn’t want to bother at first with the new API, because I’m only 
>> > interested in C = A*B with C and B being dense.
>> > Of course, I can update my code, but if I understand Stefano’s issue 
>> > correctly, and let’s say my A is of type SBAIJ, for which there is no 
>> > MatMatMult, the code will now error out in the MatProduct?
>> > There is no fallback mechanism? Meaning I could in fact _not_ use the new 
>> > API and will just have to loop on all columns of B, even for AIJ matrices.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Pierre
>> >
>> >> Hong
>> >>
>> >> From: petsc-dev 
>> >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
>> >> behalf of Pierre Jolivet 
>> >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 7:50 AM
>> >> To: petsc-dev <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >> Subject: [petsc-dev] MATOP_MAT_MULT
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >> Am I seeing this correctly?
>> >> #include <petsc.h>
>> >>
>> >> int main(int argc,char **args)
>> >> {
>> >>   Mat               A;
>> >>   PetscBool         hasMatMult;
>> >>   PetscErrorCode    ierr;
>> >>
>> >>   ierr = PetscInitialize(&argc,&args,NULL,NULL);if (ierr) return ierr;
>> >>   ierr = MatCreate(PETSC_COMM_WORLD,&A);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>> >>   ierr = MatSetType(A,MATMPIAIJ);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>> >>   ierr = MatHasOperation(A,MATOP_MAT_MULT,&hasMatMult);CHKERRQ(ierr);
>> >>   printf("%s\n", PetscBools[hasMatMult]);
>> >>   ierr = PetscFinalize();
>> >>   return ierr;
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> => FALSE
>> >>
>> >> I believe this is a regression (or at least an undocumented change) 
>> >> introduced here:https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/merge_requests/2524/
>> >> I also believe Stefano raised a similar point there: 
>> >> https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/issues/608
>> >> This is a performance killer in my case because I was previously using 
>> >> this check to know whether I could use MatMatMult or had to loop on all 
>> >> columns and call MatMult on all of them.
>> >> There is also a bunch of (previously functioning but now) broken code, 
>> >> e.g.,https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-current/src/mat/impls/transpose/transm.c.html#line105or
>> >>  
>> >> https://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/petsc-current/src/mat/impls/nest/matnest.c.html#line2105
>> >> Is this being addressed/documented?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Pierre
>> >
>

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