Hi Rich,

Many thanks for your thoughts. You are always a huge and appreciated expert 
contributor to the Pestlist!

I guess my thinking was less to destroy the worms and more to remove a 
preferred food source through de-thatching. I realize it’s not quite like 
vacuuming to remove  dust food for moths but  I guess I was hoping the strategy 
would translate.  The property is large so if we made it less hospitable near 
the house could we get the earthworms to migrate far enough to keep the 
emerging parasitic flies from finding their way to the house?

I think I know the answer but thank you for indulging the thought exercise!

We’ve near exhausted exclusion and trapping efforts with unsatisfactory 
results. This is an interpreted historic house so there is hesitance for larger 
scale exclusion interventions which get costly and might not look right. How 
bad does it have to get? These are questions for further up the chain.

Many thanks again!

Adam

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Adam,

This is an interesting question. I doubt that efforts to dethatch the lawn 
nearby will measurably diminish the abundance of cluster flies that enter the 
house. I am skeptical that the tines of the dethatching device will reach 
sufficiently deep into the soil to kill many worms. Even if the device 
destroyed a significant number of worms on the property, it would do nothing to 
those on abutting properties. Cluster flies can and do fly far enough that 
local management of this kind will likely fail.

The adult flies tend to accumulate on the southern- and western-facing exterior 
walls, and follow the rising shadow as the sun sets late in the day. They’ll 
find small openings around soffits, windows, and siding, and then enter the 
wall voids. Once inside, they’ll follow the light they may see to enter the 
human-occupied spaces.

I’d advise that you consider sealing or screening exterior penetrations on the 
building, particularly those just below the roof line. If the building is not 
insulated, consider blowing cellulose insulation into the exterior wall 
cavities. These efforts should not only reduce opportunities for flies to 
enter, but also improve the energy efficiency of the structure.

Best of success.
-Rich

Richard J. Pollack, PhD
Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
Environmental Health and Safety (EH&S) | Harvard Campus Services
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Hi All!

We’ve had some ongoing and significant cluster fly challenges at one of our 
house museums that is impacting the collections and visitor experience. 
Understanding that cluster flies are parasitic to earthworms we are thinking of 
ways to manage the worms and as result, hopefully reducing the fly population 
in a non-toxic way. I understand that de-thatching a lawn can remove organic 
material which earthworms eat and can be effective in controlling them.

My Question: Does anyone have knowledge or experience in de-thatching a lawn as 
a successful means of cluster fly control?

Many thanks and happy hunting everyone!

Adam

MuseumPests Working Group co-chair

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