Sarah,
I am also an objects conservator with a focus on preventive and natural history 
conservation (Carnegie Museum of Natural History) and I concur with both Fran 
and Rich.

To add to the discussion – during examination of the instruments, you might 
also want to examine inside of the cases and plastic bags to determine if there 
is any mold problems.  The buffering of the cases should will have helped 
buffer fluctuations in relative humidity. Mold can be cleaned and reduced 
easily, especially for the brass instruments.  As Fran mentioned, any treatment 
should be done under the advice of a conservator. You also might consider 
replacing the plastic bags and plastic drapes. The plastic (depending on the 
type) becomes yellow and brittle,  often giving off pollutants.  Check with a 
health and safety officer about disposal  and handling the plastic because of 
potential guano residue. You may have to wear ppe during the handling process. 
Please feel free to contact me of-list.

Good luck!
Gretchen

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Carnegie Museum of Natural History
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Hi Sarah,

I’m an objects conservator for the NPS and I concur with Rich.

If there are instruments that somehow were not protected by the bags and have 
guano directly on them, they could still be cleaned with the help of 
professionals. If you need to go this route, I’d be happy to discuss specifics 
off-list.

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Fran

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Sarah,

The bags should dramatically reduce exposure of the instruments to 
contaminants. I’d advise that the exterior of the bags be carefully cleaned 
before the bags are opened. Consider hiring a company that has the training and 
equipment to perform the work effectively and safely. CDC offers some guidance: 
https://www.cdc.gov/fungal/features/histoplasmosis.html

Once the work is completed, the instruments could be displayed, stored, and 
even put back into service. It would seem excessive to dispose of items that 
have value.

-Rich

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Hello all,

Over ten years ago, some of my museum’s instrument collection, mostly brass 
instruments, were placed in offsite storage (this predates myself and current 
leadership). The instruments with cases were kept inside them, placed inside 
plastic bags, and tied shut. Instruments without cases were placed in plastic 
bags and tied shut. These were then stored on shelves fully covered with 
plastic but not sealed. At one point, this building became infested with bats. 
The building no longer has a bat problem, and the guano has been removed.

We are now addressing these instruments and determining if they are safe to 
keep or if we need to cut our losses and deaccession everything.

What is your professional opinion on musical instruments and exposure to guano? 
Are there any conservation treatments we can perform to make them safe for us 
and the rest of the collection? Or do they pose a risk to the non-contaminated 
instruments? What about the public if they are ever exhibited?

Any thoughts, suggestions, or recommendations are appreciated. Please feel free 
to respond off list as well.

Thank you,
Sarah Cohen
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