Good evening Jodi,

I agree with Dr. Irwin that the wing venation is indicative of a Calliphoridae 
species. 

Best,

Mike 

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> On Apr 11, 2023, at 8:18 PM, Dr Tony Irwin <dr.tony.ir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, shrews will eat blowflies, and produce a 4-5mm dropping like the one in 
> the photo. But the smaller frass is from a beetle larva or moth caterpillar. 
> Your blunder traps should provide evidence of what's active in the case.
> Tony
> 
> Dr A.G.Irwin
> 47 The Avenues
> Norwich
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> England
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>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 18:58, Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> 
>> wrote:
>> Thank you and sorry for not including scale!  The size of the particle in 
>> those images is 4-5mm.  This was in an enclosed case with weaknesses in its 
>> construction but I am hoping a mouse couldn’t have squeezed in there.  I’ll 
>> look at the weaknesses more closely though, as well as check all objects in 
>> the area for possible beetle or other issues.  We do have recurring problems 
>> with beetles. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have found shrews in blunder traps in there recently (just a month ago).  
>> Would a shrew eat fly carcasses?  I didn’t see any signs of beetle activity 
>> outside of the frass from the fly carcasses.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jodi
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dr 
>> Tony Irwin
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:43 AM
>> To: pestlist@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [PestList] winged pest
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Jodi
>> 
>> Your photos show the remains of blow-flies (Calliphoridae, probably 
>> Calliphora species). Their bodies have been eaten by something else, such as 
>> a clothes moth or dermestid beetle. Unfortunately anything which is happy 
>> eating dead flies is a potential threat to other organic remains, including 
>> museum objects. A set of blunder traps would help to establish what pests 
>> you have, and where they are concentrated. The photos 105833 and 105914 need 
>> a scale with them, or at least tell us the size of the object. I'm guessing 
>> it's a few millimetres long, and might be a mouse dropping. Again, a 
>> potential threat to museum materials.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dr A.G.Irwin
>> 
>> 47 The Avenues
>> 
>> Norwich
>> 
>> Norfolk NR2 3PH
>> 
>> England
>> 
>> mobile: +44(0)7880707834
>> 
>> phone: +44(0)1603 453524
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 22:29, Jodi Lundgren <jodi.lundg...@crazyhorse.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We had to pull these bits of bugs out of a case.  It didn’t look like 
>> anything was actively happening to the object nearby.  I tried to do a wing 
>> search and think these may look like Conopidae?  I haven’t done a lot of 
>> identification so I may be way off base here.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There were bits of specs under and around the carcasses.  I thought the 
>> little bits may just be the bodies desiccating and flaking off.  I don’t 
>> know if they can decompose in consistently-sized breakage/flaking like that 
>> and am just shooting from the hip here in trying to figure this out.  I’m 
>> most worried that something else may be eating them and this is frass—that 
>> there is some OTHER pest that I should be concerned about.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Can anyone advise on what I may be dealing with here?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jodi Lundgren
>> 
>> Collections Manager
>> 
>> The Indian Museum of North America®
>> 
>> Crazy Horse Memorial Foundation
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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