-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/30/10 16:46 , Moritz Lenz wrote: > 1) please don't abuse MONKEY_TYPING for anything that might look like > dangerous
If Perl 6 is still Perl then in some sense it implies that "dangerous" is accepted practice. :) That said... > 2) I find .perl very, very valuable in real world debugging; I don't > want to make it its usage any harder. I'd suggest slightly different behavior for .perl: output everything but with a "..." so people have to do (a little) work to abuse it. Otherwise, though, I think I go in the direction of "if this is indeed Perl then `private' just means `do a little more work to get at it'". At most, perhaps .perl would dump only public state unless some debug option were set. As for serializeability, I think .perl is being used for two different things and we need to separate them. If it's there for debugging, you want private data in some recognizeable form and you want placeholders for things like filehandles; if for serialization, then private state can only be exported as the class itself desires (probably as method calls to initialize it), requiring a class to provide such serialization routine, and things like filehandles get skipped if the class doesn't provide a serialization for them (which it usually wouldn't). (IIRC the point of calling it "perl" was that it was to provide a Perl expression which would evaluate to the object, hence serialization. So maybe we need .debug or .dump that follows different rules?) - -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] allb...@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allb...@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkylZDgACgkQIn7hlCsL25VuWQCgyt1JQFqDbCMSlETTRXPuBOgi teIAoNea/SlGildEnAuPztkAnhwL/Xzt =mywt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
