Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-18 through 2005-01-31
All~
Welcome to another double feature summary. Sadly, this one was delayed
because of an argument that I was/am having with my connection.
Fortunately, a generous neighbor has allowed me to use his connection
for the time being. So, with that random act of kindness in mind, I
bring you
Perl 6 Language
Perl 6 on E
Rich Morin wondered if features of the language E would be supported on
Perl 6. Larry told him that many would, and "As a limiting case, you can
always back out the entire Perl grammar and install the E grammar in its
place". This was left as an exercise for the reader.
<http://xrl.us/exm4> -- the thread
<http://www.erights.org/> -- E's homepage
challenge the Palmer...
Luke Palmer produced answers to Austin Hastings's "How do I" questions.
Anyone else with such questions should send them to the list lest Luke's
learnedness loses luster.
<http://xrl.us/exm5>
refactoring Perl automatically
Matisse Enzer re-re-raised the thread on refactoring Perl. This time he
posted a link to EPIC an Eclipse plugin that uses Devel::Refactor.
Unfortunately, I think that he is still using the google groups
interface to post the language. I shall repeat, emails posted via google
groups do NOT make it to the list itself.
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thre
ad/d31481c114e88a11/8fde39f7f7418669?_done=%2Fgroup%2Fperl.perl6.languag
e%3F&_doneTitle=Back+to+topics&_doneTitle=Back&&d#8fde39f7f7418669> --
thread <http://e-p-i-c.sourceforge.net/> -- EPIC <http://xrl.us/exm6>
loops, bare blocks, and my head hurts
Juerd wondered if last/redo could be used outside loops. Larry provided
the long answer. The short answer is no, things act basically rationally
so that return, next, and last all behave as expected.
<http://xrl.us/exm7>
where without type
Juerd wondered if he could use a where clause with a type. The answer is
yes, as it will often be wanted to restrict values admitted to a
multimethod. This led me to the evil thought of putting side-effects in
a where clause on several multi-methods and watching the pain of
resolution cause very difficult to find bugs. Sometime I think that my
mind looks for nasty ways to write bad code a little too much.
<http://xrl.us/exm8>
Autothreading
Luke Palmer posted his musing about autothreading. I must say it looks
powerful enough to blow off your entire lower body if you shoot yourself
in the foot.
<http://xrl.us/exm9>
Perl 6 Compiler
Pugs
Not just ugly dogs anymore, they are also P6 interpreters written in
Haskel. Sounds really cool to me.
<http://xrl.us/exna>
Parrot
MMD and meta-stuff
In a thread that was also posted to p6l (sorry about that), I attempt to
explain how parrot object system is already very close to the Common
Lisp Object System and why it should become even closer. I am not sure
if I succeeded or not. My ability to express really abstract thoughts
without a white board is poor.
<http://xrl.us/exnb>
RT clean up
Will Coleda has been putting an extensive amount of work into cleaning
up part for public presentation with a focus on RT and organization.
<http://xrl.us/exnc> -- Hall of Shame 15308
<http://xrl.us/exnd> -- ROADMAP
<http://xrl.us/exne>
<http://xrl.us/exnf>
<http://xrl.us/exng>
<http://xrl.us/exnh>
<http://xrl.us/exni>
<http://xrl.us/exnj>
<http://xrl.us/exnk>
<http://xrl.us/exnm>
<http://xrl.us/exnn>
<http://xrl.us/exno>
<http://xrl.us/exnp>
<http://xrl.us/exnq>
<http://xrl.us/exnr>
argv[0]
Wukk (who is Will when I get off key) wants the name of the invoked
executable. Dan upped the anti by offering the full and base name
variants of the interpreter, the program, and the invoked thing.
<http://xrl.us/exns>
OSCON
Robert Spier put out a call for OSCON proposals.
<http://xrl.us/exnt>
read and readline
Matt Diephouse has been working on getting read and readline cleaned up.
<http://xrl.us/exnu> -- RT ticket
<http://xrl.us/exnv> -- discussion
<http://xrl.us/exnw> -- partial resolution
<http://xrl.us/exnx> -- an offered patch
test_main.c
Bloves posted a patch updating test_main.c. Unfortunately, it turns out
that this file is obsolete and needs to be removed.
<http://xrl.us/exny>
MinGW support
François Perrad provided a patch to improve MinGW support. Leo applied
it.
<http://xrl.us/exnz>
Compile problems
Will Coleda has a failing fresh build. Warnock applies.
<http://xrl.us/exn2>
NCI improvements
Bernhard Schmalhofer provided a patch improving NCI stuff. Leo applied
it.
<http://xrl.us/exn3>
VS.NET 2003
Sriram Krishnan fought through a build on VS.NET 2003. He overcame
problems and even posted a summary. Unfortunately, he posted all of this
to the google groups interface, as none of it made it back to the list.
<http://xrl.us/exn4>
dynclasses missing dependencies
Leo put out a request for fixes to the problem with dynclasses missing
dependencies.
<http://xrl.us/exn5>
Generational GC
Leo has put in the first part of his Generational GC system. It has
bugs, but it is also cool.
<http://xrl.us/exn6>
preemptive multitasking via continuations
Hugh Arnold wants to use timers and continuations to implement
preemptive multitasking in a single threaded application. He wants to
know if Parrot will support it. I think that the answer is yes.
<http://xrl.us/exn7>
bound methods, attribute lookup, and python
Dan, Leo, and Sam have started to go round about how to implement method
lookup and currying. Best of luck all.
<http://xrl.us/exn8>
lib/Make.pm
Matt Diephouse noticed that lib/Make.pm is out of date and unneeded. He
asked that it be removed.
<http://xrl.us/exn9>
Interacting with the mailing lists
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interacting with the mailing lists summarized herein. I think this is a
good idea and will add it too the standard footer.
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