It seems that the fundamental problem is the dichotomy between a scalar, and a list of 1 elem. Thus, we want
$a = 7 to DWIM, whether I mean a list, or a scalar. Seems to me that the best way to solve a dichotomy is to declare it to not to be one: a scalar *IS* a list of one element. The only thing that needs to go is the inappropriate casting in numeric context. This leads to a second clarification, which has bothered me wrt perl6: the purpose of sigils. If everything is an object, and objects are $ things, then why have sigils? I think the answer is that the sigil defines the default interface ("skin"?) on an object. So, $a = 7; @a = 7; both create identical objects; but the interface to these objects is different. so +$a == 7, while +@a is 1. Next: $b = 7, 6, 5 @b = 7, 6, 5 Again, both create identical objects, under different interfaces. But now we have a problem with +$b: what should this mean? To be consistant with +$a (above), I would suggest that it simply returns the sum of its elements (i.e. +(1,2,3) == 6). Dave.