On 21/02/2008, Juerd Waalboer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (Someone wrote:) > > > > And who decides that it's the one based on parrot? > > > It is the original plan to implement Perl 6 on Parrot, and the project > that gets most developer attention. > > > > > What happens if parrot turns out to be a dead end? (very unlikely, > > > but possible). > > > Then backtracking would happen, or more likely: Perl 6 would die. If > this community cannot come up with a virtual machine that can handle > Perl 6, then many people will lose all hope. > > But as indicated, this scenario is very unlikely. > > > > Let's give some $$$ to say 3 implementations, see what they come up in > > a month. Lets mupltiply their 1/CPU-time with #of tests passed :), and > > the winner gets the rest of the money. > > > I do not think a *contest* would be in the best interest of Perl 6. > > > > > And different implementations help to explore different part of the > > > specs. > > > Yes, they help. But it's not necessary. > > > > > That also helps rakudo, if the specs are well covered by other > > > implementations and are therfore much stable and really > > > implementable. > > > If something turns out to be un-implementable, they will find out > regardless of the existence of other implementations. However, I do have > a lot of faith in Larry Wall's language design skills, and think that > this is a very minor, even hypothetical issue. > > > > > If you argue that most people want an implemenation that covers > > > large parts of the specs, the most logical step would be to boost > > > pugs development. It's the most advanced implementation by far. And > > > I do believe that it can be sped up if you really want that. > > > If sufficient people were fond of hacking on its Haskell guts, then > probably we wouldn't be having this conversation. But it appears that > most volunteers consider Pugs a very useful exploration project (that > would have been used for bootstrapping if development hadn't stalled), > but see Rakudo as the beginning of a feasible real world Perl 6 > implementation.
I have been hacking a bit on Pugs lately and I don't really believe it can easily be made fast enough. Still, I think it would be very valuable to continue work on Pugs to have a complete implementation of the spec, even if it's not fast. OTOH, it is certainly possible to expand Pugs' PIR backend, I have been doing just that and the results are quite encouraging. > > So where's that pro parrot bias coming from? > > > It shows progress, and several well known, trusted and skilled hackers > work on it. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, > > Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://juerd.nl/sig> > Convolution: ICT solutions and consultancy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Best regards, Wim -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang")
