On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:17:25PM +0800, Shu-chun Weng wrote: > 1. Spaces at beginning and end of rule blocks should be ignored > since space before and after current rule are most likely be > defined in rules using current one. > 1a. I'm not sure if it's "clear" to define as this, but the spaces > around the rule-level alternative could also be ignored.
At one point I had been exploring along similar lines, but at the moment I'd say we don't want to do this. See below for an example... > For instance, look at the rule FunctionAppExpr defined in > MiniPerl6 grammar file. > > rule FunctionAppExpr > {<Variable>|<Constants>|<ArrayRef>|<FunctionName>[<?ws>?<'('><?ws>?<Parameters><')'>]?} FWIW, I'd go ahead and write this as a token statement instead of a rule: token FunctionAppExpr { | <Variable> | <Constants> | <ArrayRef> | <FunctionName> [ <?ws> \( <?ws> <Parameters> \) ]? } In fact, now that I've written the above I'm more inclined to say it's not a good idea to ignore some whitespace in rule definitions but not others. Consider: rule FunctionAppExpr { | <Variable> | <Constants> | <ArrayRef> | <FunctionName>[ \( <Parameters> \) ]? } Can we quickly determine where the <?ws> are being generated? What if the [...] portion had an alternation in it? (And, if we ignore leading/trailing whitespace in rule blocks, do we also ignore leading/trailing whitespace in subpatterns?) In a couple of grammars I've developed already (especially the one used for pgc.pir), having whitespace at the beginning of rules and around alternations become <?ws> is useful and important. In these cases, ignoring such whitespace would mean adding explicit <?ws> in the rule to get things to work. At that point it feels like waterbed theory -- by "improving" things for the FunctionAppExpr rule above we're pushing the complexity somewhere else. In general I'd say that in a production such as FunctionAppExpr where there are just a few places that need <?ws>, then it's better to use 'token' and explicitly indicate the allowed whitespace. (Side observation: in ...|<FunctionName>[<?ws>?<'('><?ws>?<Parameters><')'>]?} above, there's no whitespace between <Parameters> and the closing paren. Why not?) > 2. I am not sure the default rule of <ws>, I couldn't found it in > S05. Currently the engine use :P5/\s+/ but I would like it to > be :P/\s*/ when it's before or after non-words and remains > the same (\s+) otherwise. PGE does the "\s* when before or after non-words and \s+ otherwise" explicitly in its <ws> rule, which is written in PIR. (Being able to write subrules procedurally is I<really> nice.) In P5 it'd probably be something like (?:(?<!\w)|(?!\w))\s*|\s+ or maybe better is (?:(?<!\w)|(?!\w)|\s)\s* Pm