hi all :) for those interested in both php and perl, it seems that php's native .phpt testing feature will soon produce TAP compliant output - see greg beaver's comments here
http://shiflett.org/archive/218#comments so, TAP is slowly dominating the world... but we all knew that already :) what actually prompted me to write is a comment embedded there: "Only the simplest of designs benefits from pre-coded tests, unless you have unlimited developer time." needless to say I just don't believe this. but as I try to broach the test-driven development topic with folks I hear this lots - not just that they don't have the time to use tdd, but that it doesn't work anyway for most "real" applications (where their app is sufficiently "real" or "large" or "complex" or whatever). since I'm preaching to the choir here, and I'd rather not get dragged into a "yes it does, no it doesn't" match, is there literature or something I can point to that has sufficient basis in "real" applications? I can't be the only one dealing with this, so what do you guys do? --Geoff
