On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:44:28PM +0100, TSa wrote:
: HaloO,
: 
: Larry Wall wrote:
: > :     ::Takes3Ints ::= :(Int,Int,Int --> Any);
: > : 
: > :     my &foo:(Takes3Ints);
: > 
: > I'd say that has to be something like:
: > 
: >     my &foo:(Takes3Ints:);
: > 
: > or maybe one of
: > 
: >     my &foo:(Takes3Ints \!);
: >     my &foo:(\Takes3Ints);
: >     my &foo\(Takes3Ints);
: > 
: > since Takes3Ints is the implementation and/or arglist type.
: 
: Sorry, you lost me. Why is there a invocant colon in the
: first example,

It would presumably indicate an implementation type for &foo, which
is probably wrong.

: and what exactly does the ref indicator
: mean in all the three different alternatives?

Those would indicate an arglist parameter, which is probably right.
The most recent S06 has

    sub foo (\$arglist)

to bind the entire arglist object to $arglist, though arguably (no pun
intended) the syntax could be:

    sub foo \($arglist)

instead.  This goes with the decision that rvalue \(1,2,3,:foo)
generates an arglist object.

: > Otherwise how do you distinguish
: > 
: >     my &foo:(Takes3Ints);
: >     my &foo:(Int, Int, Int);
: 
: You mean the latter &foo as non-code, simple 3-tuple type?
: Otherwise I would think the & sigil implies the optional
: default &:( --> Any).

The Any would be implied in that case.  I don't see much difference between
that and the multi disambiguating construct:

    my &foo := &bar:(Int, Int, Int);
    say foo(1,1,1);

: But than again I haven't fully grasped
: your notion of the pure type name before the first colon.

I was just playing off of your @array:(Array: ...) thought, but the
signature is not the implementation type, so forget that.

: > The colon would still be required in an rvalue context.  But the extension
: > of that to subs seems to be:
: > 
: >     my &sub(Sub: \$args)
: > 
: > Hmm, does that mean that a method actually looks like this?
: > 
: >     my &meth(Method: $self: \$args)
: 
: I have ranted that I see method invocation as a two step
: call with a covariant dispatch first and then a normal
: contravariant call with argument type check, but why the
: second colon?

Only because multiple colons imply tiebreaking behavior under MMD.
I'm just trying to picture SMD as a form of MMD.

: And why the first on &sub(Sub: \$args)? Just
: to name the intended code subtype?

Yes, just the same as your @array:(FooArray: ...) idea that the first
invocant is the function-like object implementing the thing.

Larry

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