On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:39:59AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> If we start with everything broken and try to gradually fix it, we're 
> going to have little errors here and there for a long time.

AFAIK there is only one module of consequence which does screen scraping 
on Test::More and that's Test::Builder::Tester (Test::Warn, it turns out, 
fails because of Test::Builder::Tester).  Fix that, upload a new version 
and the problem goes away.


> If we can back the change out for 6 months or so, there's time to get 
> all the potential scrapers audited for problems

As far as I'm concerned scrapers already have a problem:  They're scraping,
they're relying on it and they didn't think to check against the alphas.
I'm not particularly inclined to back out three months of Test::More fixes 
and hold up new releases until next spring to accomodate them.


> At the present time you cannot install anything of consequence onto a 
> fresh Perl install.

Of course you can, it comes with Test::More!  5.8.7 comes with 0.54 which
is just two releases ago.  You'd be hard pressed to find anything which relies
on anything newer.  Test::Builder::Tester wants Test::Builder 0.12 which is 
rather old.

The fact that you're the first person to report this problem, two weeks 
after Test::More was released, that its not nearly as widespread as you 
think.

I'm done talking about this until I see some attempt at fixing 
Test::Builder::Tester.  It could have been done by now.


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