HaloO,

Yuval Kogman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 11:46:37 -0500, Adam D. Lopresto wrote:

The recent thread on Expectuations brought back to mind something I've been
thinking for a while.  In short, I propose that "use fatal" be on by default, 
and
that "err" be turned into syntactic sugar for a very small try/CATCH block.


I like it a lot. It gives the advantages of both the flexible, more
robust try/catch, and the (locally) concise, clear error return.

I don't like it at all. I fear, that we mix two orthogonal concepts
just because it is convenient.

To me the statement

  return 42;  # 1

has to orthogonal meanings:

  1) the current scope has reached its (happy) end
  2) a specific result was determined

We can vary on both of these dimensions *independently*!
Which gives the remaining three cases:

  return undef; #  0   unspecific result
  fail   undef; # -1   no return with unspecific reason
  fail   42;    # -2   no return but  determined reason

In other words an exception means

  return !caller;

or in yet another way to describe my attitude: the least
thing that *defines* an exception is that the dynamic
scope in question has reached the conclusion that it
is *not* going to give control back to its creator!

Note that this somewhat pinpoints or controls the two infinities
of computing in time and storage. One either needs a block of infinite
length right away or handle control flow exceptions *on the outside*
to keep a finite scope going.
--
$TSa.greeting := "HaloO"; # mind the echo!

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