I think actually you've bought a self-levelling washing machine and there should be no need for a level but if you value your kitchen and your clothes you have your own level,
F On 9/12/05, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 12:35:43PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > >Usually, Test::* modules are only used for the test phase. > > > > I really don't understand the idea of "only used for the test phase", > > as if the tests don't matter, or if there are levels of failure. > > Either they install OK on the target system, and you can use them > > with confidence, and they've done their job, or you're going to > > ignore the tests completely and then who needs 'em? > > > > It's like if I'm installing a washing machine, and I don't have a > > level. I can say "Ah, I only need it for the installation, and it > > looks pretty level, so I don't need the level", or I can say "I'm not > > using this appliance until I've proven to myself that the machine is > > level and won't cause me any problems in the future because of an > > imbalance." > > This is a good analogy. It's correct. > > But the assumptions behind it cover only one case. > > It's as if the requirements for the washing machine say: > > To install and use this machine you will need: > > * a power supply > * a water supply > * drainage > * a level > > > which is valid if you're both the installer and the user. But if someone > else helps you install the machine, then you don't actually need the level, > if they bring theirs and use it for the install. > > > I think that the build_requires/test_requires distinction *is* important, if > it can be made, as it eases the lives of anyone wishing to package up > modules, build them from source in one place, and then distribute their > packages to many other machines, be they OS vendors or sysadmins. The tests > are run and pass on the build machine, prior to packaging. But the automatic > dependency system doesn't need to make installation of this module depend on > installing Test::* onto the production machine. (for the general case) > > > But it's only important if it's easy to make. And I'd much prefer time and > effort to go into writing better modules, better tests, and better tools, > than generating heat. > > Nicholas Clark >