On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 13:40, Dan Sugalski wrote:

> >ALTERNATE RESPONSE
> 
> This is where you go mad, right? :)

Usually ;-)

> >  Why abstract within
> >the arbitrary constraints of a POSIX-type stat model?
> 
> I wasn't, actually. There's a good sprinkling of VMSisms in that 
> list, and I'm all for adding more stuff if need be. (I forgot to note 
> the various flavors of symlink, as well as the link count in cases 
> where it can be determined, as well as user and group of the file 
> itself)

Yeah, noticed the VMSism (ACLs, version (mentioned later), a separate
change dir bit), and being an old VMS hacker I approved in spirit, if
not in action. VMS was nice for when it was used. It's too bad it's
being maintained as a legacy now, and not the OS it could have been.

If you scrap the places that you've factored out things that will have
to be un-factored in the common case (filenames were the biggie), it's
fine... just don't expect people to do anything with it except extract
the POSIX semantics... after all, it took 15 years to get to the point
that POSIX could unify file semantics as much as it did....

Keeping a niche open for ACLs is probably smart, esp. in the Windows
world.

-- 
Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Senior Systems Engineer and Toolsmith
"It's the sound of a satellite saying, 'get me down!'" -Shriekback


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