Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:05:25PM +0100, Eirik Berg Hanssen wrote:

> :   I for one would appreciate the visual clue that we access properties
> : and subclasses as roles ($foo~~bareword), while we access attributes
> : (with accessors) as methods ($foo.bareword).  Different things should
> : look different, right?
> 
> I still think that you can access the role itself as a method, but only
> if it's really there.  In that case the different thing is trying to be
> the same.  A simple property should behave like an attribute when it can.

  When I wrote that, I still had in mind the "boolean methods
corresponding to every class/role/property name in scope" -- but I
think you mean something else when you speak of accessing the role.
Specifically, I think you mean what I would call "accessing the role's
(main) attribute".  If so, we are still in agreement.  If not, I am
very much confused. :-)

  Red and Reddish (per your example) are not properties, given your
definition in the other thread.  So you are not arguing for Red and
Reddish to be accessible as methods, I gather.

  I can see this, I suppose:

        $bar but= $foo.Color if $foo ~~ Color;
        if $bar ~~ Reddish {
            print $bar.hex_code; # hex_code is a method of the role,
                                 # and so can be accessed directly.

            $bar.Color.red = 0;  # red is not a method of the role,
                                 # and must be accessed through the
                                 # role's main attribute (for which
                                 # red is an lvalue method, it seems).
        }

  But this would all come about because the role defines an attribute
by the same name, not because method lookup scans the role namespace.
Or so I would hope.

  And then it is no different from being able to access as a method
any public attribute (or other method) that the role defines -- if the
role is really there.

  Or am I very much confused?


Eirik
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