At 12:53 PM 10/17/2003 +0200, Juergen Boemmels wrote:
Robert Spier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > The goals are to assign permanent numbers to the opcodes. What the
> > numbers are is generally irrelevant, but they must be constant across
> > all systems for the lifetime of parrot.
>
> At first glance, gut reaction, that seems "really hard"(tm) and
> "really limiting"(tm)...

Why is it hard? If we have a native interface and a well designed set of basic opcodes, what else do we need?

My opinion on this has not changed in 2 years of Parrot.
I see no benefit to writing a VM if we are going to allow
all these "added" opcodes.

Only if the opcode libs are implemented in pure Parrot, where
they can be packaged along with the bytecode file, do I see
a real win for us, but even then, I can't understand why they
should be ops rather than subs or such. I'm afraid we
will just end up with the Perl5 situation where so many modules
require C to build and install, and we are also making the VM
more and more complex.

I've asked this before: Please, someone give me an example
where a dynamic opcode lib gives us something
that a well designed set of core ops and an extension
interface does not.

Please also include in your example the semantics of packaging
a portable bytecode.

-Melvin





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