--- Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:17:36AM -0800, Damian Conway wrote:
> > Err....no. That's rather the whole point of C<but> properties [*].
> 
> > [*] People, we just *have* to find better names for these things!
> >     I'd suggest we henceforth call them "value" properties (for
> C<but>)
> >     and "referent" properties (for C<is>).
> 
> Over on [EMAIL PROTECTED] there seemed to be confusion about
> attributes
> and properties, given that some languages use one where we use the
> other.
> I had a dig in a thesaurus, I suggested that "chattels" and "virtues"
> were interesting words that unambiguously describe respectively extra
> data
> you've attached to a thing, and an extra qualities you've given it.
> But that's still only one (controversial) word for properties, and we
> need two.
> And I don't really like "chattels", whereas"virtues" sits nicely with
> "bless".
> 

Obviously, values are pure and therefrom spring "virtues," while
objects are but vile clay -- fallible constructs of a sinful man,
pathetically trying to recreate an envisioned ideal. Ergo, they have
naught but "vices."

Can I get an "Amen," brothers and sisters?

=Austin


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