On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:43:01PM -0800, Dave Whipp wrote: > "Sean O'Rourke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> One thing the "golden-output" has going for it is that it gets into >> and out of perl6 as quickly as possible. In other words, it relies on >> perl6/parrot to do just about the minimum required of it, then passes >> verification off to outside tools (e.g. perl5). I realize they can be >> fragile, but at least for the moment, we can't rely on a complete >> perl6 Test::Foo infrastructure, and I think that in general, we >> _shouldn't_ require such a thing for the very basic tests. Because if >> we do, and something basic is broken, all the tests will break >> because of it, making the bug-hunter's job much more difficult. > > I see where you are coming from ... but is the IO infrastructure > really the most primitive thing to rely on? It may be at the moment; > but I expect that it will become more complex. C<print> may be a > built-in right now; but it should probably move to a module later.
I/O is fairly fundamental, particularly for a language as heavily into being glue as perl. I can't see it not being core. > If we can't rely on C<assert(0)> to kill a test (and C<assert(1) not to); > then things are pretty badly broken (assuming that C<assert> exists). Perl's tests are built on Test::More, it uses ok() and is() not assert(). If we're going to be doing test cases for perl 6 then we should do them using perl's standard testing format (i.e. Test::More, Test::Harness, etc.) > If we are going to pick a very small subset on which almost all tests > will depend ... isn't it better to pick the test-infrastructure itself > to be that dependency; rather that some arbitrary module (like IO). If your program can't do basic I/O it's probably pretty broken. Even if we we're to only rely on the test modules, they also need to be able to communicate with the outside world. andrew -- Aries: (March 21 - April 19) You'll soon find yourself in the midst of a power struggle, as two corrupt and ruthless families fight for control of a small town. Whatever you do, don't trust the drunken undertaker.
