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I am going to play the peace-maker here for a moment, is there any possibility of 
negoiating a way out of this because I dont feel that it:

a) benefits the world of users
and
b) makes a whole lotta sense considering that ATT has attempted to go the open route a 
lot more than many of the hosting platforms especially 
Microsoft.

John

--- Mumit Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Paul Garceau wrote:
> 
> > Something I received today.
> > 
> >     If you're using gcc for U/Win release from Mumits site, please 
> > take note.
> 
> Yup, FSF has found that it is in violation of GPL to distribute GCC
> linked with U/WIN runtime. I'll be removing all of it when I get back
> from vacation later this week, with a note explaining why for the
> benefit of the users.
> 
> Regards,
> Mumit
> 
> 
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--- "John van V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Maybe this is slightly off topic, but you are the source !! ;)
> 
> I have been trying w/o success to munge perl (open2.pl) into talking to the
> classic expect/ssh script.
> 
> Perl is actually inappropriate for this application as I am working in the
> site
> that houses all the physical securities/bonds where you can just imagine the
> level of security paranoia.
> 
> I have in the past gotten shell to talk to perl co-process w/ read and
> redirection but the syntax escapes me at the moment.
> 
> I would be most grateful if anyone could please send me a snippet of code
> showing the "read" and redirection components, saving me my nth migraine on
> this project.
> 
> TIA, John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> John van Vlaanderen
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:46:36 -0500, "Bradley M. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> 
> John van V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I was really amused to see RMS and Eric Raymond agree for the first time
> > in history where Chinese Linux companies were pirating the OS.
> 
> I actually doubt RMS agreed that they were "pirating".  I am sure he would
> have used the word "copyright infringement".  Pirates tend to rape, murder
> and steal physical goods from people.  Copyright infringement is not as bad
> as any of those things.
> 
> But, since free software licenses use copyright, copyright infringement can
> happen, if the free software licenses aren't followed.
>  
> 
> > The problem isn't with the artistic license; it is with the GNU license.
> > So let's fix the GPL.
> 
> It's actually a bit late to propose new RFC's to Larry about licensing.
> 
> However, I might as well ask, what is it that you see is "broken" about the
> GPL?  The Artistic license needs changes because of the various
> incongruencies and inconsistencies found by people in both the open source
> and free software communities, and documented in RFCs.  Have you found such
> inconsistencies in the GPL?  And, if so, how do they effect the dual license
> of Perl?
> 
> Also, note that if we use a modified version of the GPL, it will likely be
> incompatible with the real GPL, which will cause big licensing problems.
> So, we should likely avoid modifying the GPL itself at all costs (but
> dual-licensing is of course a great idea).
>  
> > Like, who do we know in Boston who is tough as nails (and doesn't pay for
> > her own drinks)?
> 
> I have no idea what this means.
>  
> > My whole point is to try to prevent a schism of the free s/w community to
> > make sure the world gets the best benefit from perl6.
> 
> I don't see how such a schism would come about.  Dual licensing is designed,
> in part, to prevent schisms by allowing each part of the community to get
> what it wants.
> 
> The question was: "Did the old Artistic license do what we wanted?"  I
> argued "no" in my RFCs.  Some folks argued "yes".  We'll see what Larry
> decides.
> 
> -- 
> Bradley M. Kuhn  -  http://www.ebb.org/bkuhn
> 
> 

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