>>>>> "TB" == Tim Bunce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  TB> On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 02:26:10PM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
  >> >>>>> "TB" == Tim Bunce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
  >> 
  TB> As a part of that the weak reference concept, bolted recently into
  TB> perl5, could be made more central in perl6.
  >> 
  TB> Around 92.769% of the time circular references are known to be
  TB> circular by the code that creates them (like a 'handy' ref back to
  TB> a parent node).  Having a weakref, or similar, operator in the
  TB> language would help greatly.
  >> 
  >> i second this. i am doing just what tim mentions. i have a child and
  >> parent object referring back to each other for callback purposes. the
  >> parent needs to own the child and the child has to have a parent ref to
  >> make a method callback in the parent. there is no way out of creating
  >> circular refs in that situation. i have to do an explicit object
  >> shutdown so i don't leak ram. this isn't a big problem in stem since you
  >> have to explicitly unregister stuff as well (that can't be done with
  >> scope exit) but it would still be nice not to have to worry about the
  >> ref loops.

  TB> So why not use the WeakRef module (or whatever it's called)?

as i said, i need an explicit shutdown for other reasons in most cases
(a global registry being one of them). and i have heard that weakref is
not perfect so i haven't explored it. as of the moment i have just
developed a circular link breaking style for these objects and it
works. 

uri

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