At 09:56 AM 10/1/00 -0500, David Grove wrote:
>Part of Perl's problems, a severe internal problem that has external (user
>side) consequences, is that Perl does *not* have anyone to speak policy with,

Yes, it does, as much as any piece of software can. For language issues 
there's Larry. For internals issues (at least at a design level, since the 
implementation doesn't exist) there's me.

For community issues there really isn't anyone--it's an anarchic 
meritocracy, just like pretty much all open source projects are.

>while the community itself is submerged in issues of politics, qliques,
>takeovers, monopolists, corruption, collusion, and ulterior motives.

*All* communities have this. It's the nature of people. Pretending it might 
be otherwise is to paint a rather pleasant utopian fantasy that, 
unfortunately, can't exist. (At least not one that has people in it) It's 
one of the common failings of people involved in open source projects. 
Assuming that somehow people will magically be other than people is the 
fastest way for the perl 6 community to self-destruct.

This does point out the biggest issue the community has at the 
moment--there aren't enough calm, mature, rational folks weighing in to 
keep things as level as we might want. I'm not sure what to do about that, 
since it's both a tiring and thankless endeavor that tends to burn people out.

                                        Dan

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Dan Sugalski                          even samurai
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                                      teddy bears get drunk

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