On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Jason King <ja...@ansipunx.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM, David Collier-Brown <dav...@sun.com> wrote:
>> Brendan Gregg wrote:
>>> No.  Stop.  Do not assume any data is better than no data.  Wrong
>>> or misleading data is *worse* than no data.
>>
>>  I agree most emphatically.  Most metrics recorded by programs
>> are those needed by the authors of the programs. All too
>> few are the ones we need to *use* the program.
>>
>>  Solaris is good at collecting, for example, queue occupancy
>> and depth instead of just depth, but we can do more. And
>> the fishwork guys are the ones are doing it, for storage.
>>
>>  I therefor suggest we *do* do more, Brendan's alternative B:
>>> make an effort to export useful performance metrics, to meet
>>> stated needs.  Examine what's there and keep what is good (I think
>>> "iostat -xne" output is great), drop what's bad (some of vmstat),
>>> and add what is missing - which means adding kstats to the kernel.

Methinks we're all in violent agreement. I would characterize what Jason's
doing here as 'make available via snmp useful information that you would
otherwise have to log in to a server and type a bunch of commands to get'.
It's not 'emulate every bug in the existing tools', and certainly isn't limited
to only displaying what the current tools can.

-- 
-Peter Tribble
http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
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